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Israel actually provides the most transparent data of any country so far during Covid. People that are smarter than both of us have this same opinion. Seems like the problem here is folks are having problems trusting people in charge, per usual.

Which is exactly what I’ve been trying to tell him. How is he and other Coli experts going to tell others to trust the data and information from the CDC and Israel when they don’t even trust the information themselves :jbhmm:

Telling people that the expert’s information is wrong is anti-vaxx talk and the same thing they love to gripe about other people on here doing.
 

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Once again, Israel has been telling this information for months now that people on here and in the US have tried downplaying......

Now watch how some dudes come in here and try to downplay that information.

What I'm interested to know IS how are those in Israel, who already caught covid, faring against the new variant and what is the rate of hospitalization among them? If it's less than those who are fully vaccinated than that would be something I really would want to know.
 
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Stop it. No one's downplaying that information. You are overlooking one fact: infection =/= hospitalization or death. Also, you getting all flustered over 250+ vaccinated people getting infected shows a hypocritical view since that is still less than 1% of ALL cases while unvaccinated people make-up the remaining 99%.

Now, why are you overlooking the HUGE 99% and only concentrating on the less than 1%?​

It's that New Maf-th™.
 

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More information for the people in this thread downplaying the Israel information and why other countries are paying attention to them pertaining to COVID-19.

A grim warning from Israel: Vaccination blunts, but does not defeat Delta | Science | AAAS

Israel is being closely watched now because it was one of the first countries out of the gate with vaccinations in December 2020 and quickly achieved a degree of population coverage that was the envy of other nations— for a time. The nation of 9.3 million also has a robust public health infrastructure and a population wholly enrolled in HMOs that track them closely, allowing it to produce high-quality, real-world data on how well vaccines are working.

“I watch [Israeli data] very, very closely because it is some of the absolutely best data coming out anywhere in the world,” says David O’Connor, a viral sequencing expert at the University of Wisconsin, Madison. “Israel is the model,” agrees Eric Topol, a physician-scientist at Scripps Research. “It’s pure mRNA [messenger RNA] vaccines. It’s out there early. It’s got a very high level population [uptake]. It’s a working experimental lab for us to learn from.”
 

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I wish they would stop writing articles like this or at least give complete context to the stories. This is just fuel for the morons to run with.
 

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US extends land border again :mjcry:

Canadian joints don’t want to spend the flight bread to see a nikka no more :mjcry:

525+ days since the travel ban for Europeans to fly here. Damn shame and they believing in sCiEnCe for some their decision making.

We as americans can still travel to foreign counties through and bring back whatever :stopitslime:
 

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Actually6Foot3 said:
why is it a problem?

It reduces the available hospitalization space for the majority of the population that are NOT infected with COVID and still require medical attention.

Mothers are still giving birth, people are still getting dialysis, organ transplants, car accidents, chemotherapy, etc.​
 
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