Yuzo Lightheart
Rookie
damian lillard > isiah thomas
CP3 or Zeke?
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Majestic Pape
The-Coli = W SOHH = L
Whenever bringing up stats, people need to recognize that Isiah SCALED BACK his individual game in order for his team to compete for and win championships.
Gil Scott-Heroin
Veteran
Rose wasn't top 5. The same media that voted him as the MVP ranked him as the 8th best player 5 months later.
NBA Player Rankings 8 - ESPN
You aren't more valuable than 3 players when they are all CLEARLY better than you.
LOL @ Dirk having no case. Dirk missed 9 games in 2011 and the Mavs lost all 9. Mavs finished with the 4th best record in the NBA that year. They clearly weren't the same without him. Now compare that to the Bulls record with and without Rose.
He was more valuble to the Bulls than Wade/LeBron (as individuals) were to the Heat. How is that so hard for you to understand? That SEASON he had more offensive workload and responsibilities than every single other MVP candidate. AND STOP fukkIN LYING- the mavs didn't lose all 9 games without dirk.
in 2010/2011 - the Bulls lost 100% of their games without rose and the Mavs lost 77.8% of their games without dirk. which such small sample sizes shouldn't mean anything at all.
And Dirk didn't have to create offense for the rest of his team either, like rose did. he was the difference between the Bulls being a top 5/11 offense in the league and one of, if not the worst in the league.
if you wanna use rose's poor shooting games (in wins) as evidence as to why he doesn't deserve the mvp - than the same applies to dirk:
7-21
3-9
5-16
5-16
6-21
5-14
6-22
5-14
Mavs won all those games when dirk shot like that. you see how stupid that sounds when you don't give stats any sort of context? did you watch all those games that rose shot poorly in? did you watch any of his games at all? i'm guessing you didn't because NOBODY that actually watched a large enough size of bulls games would have said he wasn't even a top 5 candidate that season. the revionist history you are using is beyond ridiculous..... its just hating.. no other words for it.
god shamgod
Veteran
If the bulls kept the bench mob this year they'd be a top 3 team without rose
Johnny Kilroy
79 points in 1 quarter
"This year alone" then you start talkin about 4 years ago?
I'm not even saying he's better than Zeke but if CP3 isn't the top PG on your list today then I don't wanna hear nothing you have to say about basketball or any other sport.
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
To early to call, Isiah is a champion. CP3 needs to get some rings before I can say he's better with certainty. CP3 at his peak is one of the best Guards ever, 20/5/11 with 2.5 steals and good efficiency leading average supporting casts to the playoffs.
When you do these comparisons you can't go simply off stats, it's different eras Isiah played in the 80s a much faster paced era with more posessions.
When you do these comparisons you can't go simply off stats, it's different eras Isiah played in the 80s a much faster paced era with more posessions.
Ronald McDonald
Even in the darkest nights, I'm a MAC for life
lol @ the playground logic being thrown around in here
"so and so beat so and so, therefore he is automatically better than so and so"
"so and so beat so and so, therefore he is automatically better than so and so"
Majestic Pape
The-Coli = W SOHH = L
I didn't see or don't remember the game you're talking about, but how the hell do you hide a player by making him guard Kevin fukking Durant?
How about make a wcf first. Lol tony Parker been the best pg this year. Only dikkriders say otherwise.
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
Ummm no. CP3 is the best PG in the game only haters say otherwise.
Field Marshall Bradley
Veteran
Maybe you should start watching hockey or something. It would probably make more sense to you
holidayinn21
:SmugMoneyMike:
I didn't see or don't remember the game you're talking about, but how the hell do you hide a player by making him guard Kevin fukking Durant?
they put him on durant because he had help coming.
Rose and Iversons MVP's are very similar. The number one reason the team won games was because of their great defense and rebounding(which neither rose or Iverson were anchoring).But you can't give defense and rebounding the MVP, so you have to give it to the High PPG scorer on the team.
You can't be the Mvp when your not even the number one reason your team is winning games.
You can't be the Mvp when your not even the number one reason your team is winning games.
Barry Sanders
Barry>>>
zeke>cp3
the hornets lost by 58 points in a playoff game
i fukks with cp3 he one of the best in the game ill admit
mj was so mad at isiah and crew used to beat the bulls ass he got isiah kept off the dream team
the hornets lost by 58 points in a playoff game
i fukks with cp3 he one of the best in the game ill admit
mj was so mad at isiah and crew used to beat the bulls ass he got isiah kept off the dream team
Shameonyou
All Star
cp3 before knee injury was putting up numbers on pace with lebron....people dont understand how dominant cp3 was before his injury...its a shame he had the injury we got cheated of watching one of the best players ever....
chris paul right now? is playing to keep his career alive....he cant play the way he used to simply because it can all end in a flash if he plays too reckless...shyt is a shame...he was unbelievable in his prime.
chris paul right now? is playing to keep his career alive....he cant play the way he used to simply because it can all end in a flash if he plays too reckless...shyt is a shame...he was unbelievable in his prime.