CROOKED I ENTERS THE DISCUSSION ON EMINEM & DR UMAR

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conversely, how do you know umar doesn't have a problem with him? just cause he says it?

your logic goes both ways.


He said it himself, why would he have a problem with him? He ain't a rapper. What real contribution has Em done besides stir shyt up and make drama for other rappers once he signed rappers like 50? He made everything divide and they conquered.


Who did he blackball?


MGK was blackballed before on Shade 45. Em said it himself in his old songs he would blackball rappers on Say What You Say.

 

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The race angle is just facts. No white person could become the best bachata singer, best Hindustani composer, Reggae artist. Anyone suggesting it would not be taken seriously in those genres. Meanwhile, if you say Em is the best we have to consider it for some reason. Na, we don't.

We all know this . No black person is calling Em the greatest of all time.....Umar is just using Em's name to get buzz/clicks/donations...The same way he said Vanessa Bryant isn't using Kobe's wealth to help black people... He's using race to trigger black people...It's a cheap tactic IMO....
 

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He said it himself, why would he have a problem with him? He ain't a rapper. What real contribution has Em done besides stir shyt up and make drama for other rappers once he signed rappers like 50? He made everything divide and they conquered.





MGK was blackballed before on Shade 45. Em said it himself in his old songs he would blackball rappers on Say What You Say.



Didn't MGK say something about Eminem's daughter?
 

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They gonna defend Em if he is wrong regardless, that's why they're in his corner. Umar said he has no personal problem with him. Those guys are yes men.
Breh, hip-hop industry is extremely cliquey and every top guy has a team that defends them because they have a vested interest.

Drake also only does calculated interviews and had sports teams, fast food chains and politicians defending him against Meek

Say something about Jay about watch Young Guru, Elliott, Questlove, Toure etc switch the narrative

Kanye is a rotten ass guy and still has a team of stans and influencers that cape for him.

This is how it works. Also why didn't Budden press Umar on his school? Was that not allowed to be mentioned or something?
 

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He said it himself, why would he have a problem with him? He ain't a rapper.





MGK was blackballed before on Shade 45. Em said it himself in his old songs he would blackball rappers on Say What You Say.


Keywords..OLD SONGS Who has specifically stated that they have been blackballed recently as in the last 10 years? Did MGK say it? Obviously MGK wasn’t going to be allowed on Shade45 if he talks smack about the owner and his daughter. What part of that don’t you understand?
 

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He said it himself, why would he have a problem with him? He ain't a rapper. What real contribution has Em done besides stir shyt up and make drama for other rappers once he signed rappers like 50? He made everything divide and they conquered.
many non-rappers have had problems with eminem...his career was built on controversy.

How did he make drama? 50/Ja was inherited
JD/Dre, he's of course riding for dre
Game/50 he's riding with 50.

he stayed out of Joe/Kiss and 50


the hate you have for em is always :mjlol: you are bizarro litetuant dan

Breh, hip-hop industry is extremely cliquey and every top guy has a team that defends them because they have a vested interest.

Drake also only does calculated interviews and had sports teams, fast food chains and politicians defending him against Meek

Say something about Jay about watch Young Guru, Elliott, Questlove, Toure etc switch the narrative

Kanye is a rotten ass guy and still has a team of stans and influencers that cape for him.

This is how it works. Also why didn't Budden press Umar on his school? Was that not allowed to be mentioned or something?
BK gonna ignore this.
 

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I normally don't jive with Dr. umar but in this case he's right. No way some white dude can be the best MC, this is our thing and Eminem isn't the best. Seriously, if he was Black he would not get the Dre cosign and would be some indie MC who maybe made a living off rapping.
The race angle is just facts. No white person could become the best bachata singer, best Hindustani composer, Reggae artist. Anyone suggesting it would not be taken seriously in those genres. Meanwhile, if you say Em is the best we have to consider it for some reason. Na, we don't.

Respectfully, this is bizzare logic.

Is James A. Naismith the GOAT basketball player? If someone is the GOAT, they're the GOAT. Not even sure how "but he's not the same race as the creator of...." is a topic of discussion.

Having said that, Em isn't the GOAT. Or any white rapper, for that matter.

Fred.
 

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many non-rappers have had problems with eminem...his career was built on controversy.

How did he make drama? 50/Ja was inherited
JD/Dre, he's of course riding for dre
Game/50 he's riding with 50.

he stayed out of Joe/Kiss and 50


the hate you have for em is always :mjlol: you are bizarro litetuant dan


BK gonna ignore this.
It's just silly. There's plenty of places that shyt on Eminem and rightfully so, he's been wack for a long time.

He still helped a lot of people make money, and those people will defend him. 50, Royce and them will be loyal to him for life, and why shouldn't they? Lol

MC Shan defended him, because let's be honest, who else is shouting out MC Shan in acceptance speeches and wearing T shirts of him to breathe some life into his catalog?
 

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:dead:The brigade really hitting my comments nonstop, why did I even start this conversation on this new years like this? :snoop:
 

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Respectfully, this is bizzare logic.

Is James A. Naismith the GOAT basketball player? If someone is the GOAT, they're the GOAT. Not even sure how "but he's not the same race as the creator of...." is a topic of discussion.

Having said that, Em isn't the GOAT. Or any white rapper, for that matter.

Fred.
Music is art and culture basketball is not. There are stats you can use to point out who is more effective. Not so much in music. And the cultural aspect is important. Em has gotten treatment from fans white ones in particular that provide him a huge advantage in "who is the best" discussions.
 

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Didn't MGK say something about Eminem's daughter?


Keywords..OLD SONGS Who has specifically stated that they have been blackballed recently as in the last 10 years? Did MGK say it? Obviously MGK wasn’t going to be allowed on Shade45 if he talks smack about the owner and his daughter. What part of that don’t you understand?




many non-rappers have had problems with eminem...his career was built on controversy.

How did he make drama? 50/Ja was inherited
JD/Dre, he's of course riding for dre
Game/50 he's riding with 50.

he stayed out of Joe/Kiss and 50


the hate you have for em is always :mjlol: you are bizarro litetuant dan


BK gonna ignore this.

I’m not Umar or anyone else, they have the right to say what they want just as much as the fans who try to say he’s the greatest Ever which he is not. He’s one of the greatest but he ain’t rapping about anything in his music most of the time unless it’s his past drug addiction or losing his friend.
 

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We all know this . No black person is calling Em the greatest of all time.....Umar is just using Em's name to get buzz/clicks/donations...The same way he said Vanessa Bryant isn't using Kobe's wealth to help black people... He's using race to trigger black people...It's a cheap tactic IMO....
OK, doesn't invalidate his point. Like you said many agree.
 
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