CROOKED I ENTERS THE DISCUSSION ON EMINEM & DR UMAR

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Crooked I is a better rapper than Eminem these days
 

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If we don't have an issue saying the best __________ in a white dominated field is black, why should we get upset if a white person is declared the best in a black dominated field?

Ultimately it’s all subjective and you can feel how you want, but can't be hypocrites on this shyt or you kill your credibility on things that really matter.
This is a false comparison. Being dominated by a certain demographic is different than something deriving and being inextricably linked to a culture. There’s nothing inherent to “white culture” about having the most doctors or lawyers in the US but something like pasta is associated with Italians and you’ll never ever hear that any other demographic has the greatest pasta chefs.
 

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Some of those are media outlets and they speak on everything. Some have an opinion and now they can't be controlled like before when Em had these outlets in his back pocket like XXL Magazine. No narratives can be controlled anymore. Everyone can say what they want :manny:
Crazy how people don’t understand this. 10-15 years ago folks were saying the same shyt and folks were responding the same way but it was simply on message boards like this, no different than sports. Podcasters, bloggers, message board users like ourselves have now taken over as talking heads and the people talking are people who might be “famous” but they were right there with us having the same arguments/discussions with a few trolls jumping in from time to time, shyt is legit like first take. Opinions aren’t made up and everyone is allowed to have their own personalities so they can say whatever the fukk they want only thing now is they have to watch their mouths depending on which platform they’re on.
 

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Crazy how people don’t understand this. 10-15 years ago folks were saying the same shyt and folks were responding the same way but it was simply on message boards like this, no different than sports. Podcasters, bloggers, message board users like ourselves have now taken over as talking heads and the people talking are people who might be “famous” but they were right there with us having the same arguments/discussions with a few trolls jumping in from time to time, shyt is legit like first take. Opinions aren’t made up and everyone is allowed to have their own personalities so they can say whatever the fukk they want only thing now is they have to watch their mouths depending on which platform they’re on.


Social media made it easier for everyone to respond. Now everyone has a voice to speak their opinion. Is it all good? Probably not, but now artists will listen and maybe take notes and make changes of their music being critized.
 

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Whether it's true or false......Why should Eminem respond to random people on the internet?........... Do you realize how many clout chasers continuously say Eminem's name just to get clicks/attention?

Benzino
N.Cannon
Lord Jamar
Vlad
Dr.Umar
The Game
Wack 100
Melle Mel
Joe Budden Podcast

Giving all of the people attention would be stupid and a waste of time.
White boy got famous off of dropping names of celebs to get famous, how rich.

Why they stick up for the white boy like he's retarded or something? Let him fight his own battles
 

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White boy got famous off of dropping names of celebs to get famous, how rich.

Why they stick up for the white boy like he's retarded or something? Let him fight his own battles


This is what I mean, Eminem’s entire career was name dropping way more than what Game was doing. Name dropping Britney Spears, *NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, Lauryn Hill, Diddy & Mase, Bill Clinton Monica Lewinsky and it keeps continuing. He was the original name dropped for clout.
 

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...but you think royce, crook are being controlled? they aren't allowed to have their positive opinion/position of him?
Nope. You're being naive. You think they would give a shyt about Em if their financial livelihoods didn't depend on him?

Like Lester Freeman said, follow the money. That's always gonna get you the real answer
 

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The race angle is just facts. No white person could become the best bachata singer, best Hindustani composer, Reggae artist. Anyone suggesting it would not be taken seriously in those genres. Meanwhile, if you say Em is the best we have to consider it for some reason. Na, we don't.
It worked with Elvis. Cacs bold
 

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Son is wrong. Eminem ain’t the GOAT but it ain’t because he’s white. Dr Umar is a fukking idiot cause I can break his argument apart with ease and he’s also a hypocrite. That dumb argument does nothing to help us as black people and in fact it discredits all the black people who mastered and became greatest at shyt that whites created. Something we do every day.
Again, if we are talking about something measurable like playing basketball it's a bad analogy. This is about art/culture it's more esoteric in evaluation.
 

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Nope. You're being naive. You think they would give a shyt about Em if their financial livelihoods didn't depend on him?

Like Lester Freeman said, follow the money. That's always gonna get you the real answer
crook isn't signed to em, and neither is royce.

slaughterhouse was once, but we know what happened there.

so you saying they depend on him still?

do you say the same shyt about 50? does his livelyhood depend on em too? Cause he defends em as much, if not more than them.


like i told BK, his logic goes both ways. why is it they're controlled, but others aren't? why aren't they free to voice their position?
 

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Again, if we are talking about something measurable like playing basketball it's a bad analogy. This is about art/culture it's more esoteric in evaluation.
No. It’s all the same. If it ain’t measurable. Complaining about it makes it an even dumber argument. Because it’s all opinion right? No matter how u slice it. Umar is wrong. And like I said before. This SAME nikka was just calling hip hop in itself white supremacy a few weeks back.
 
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