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There are non kyc fiat on ramps? Or are you just moving around the crypto you already had?

You are late to the bitcoin maxi party it’s to top heavy. If I was going into anyone coin it would be eth it does what bitcoin does and does what bitcoin can’t do. Look at the bear market rally eth was at 150% at its high from this years bottom btc barely did 20% so far, I believe this is how it will be moving forward.

Solana isn’t a scam it actually has web3 application and nft capabilities. Something bitcoin doesn’t. It is centralized and does go down, but that’s why it’s still beta. You also have to remember when btc first came out it was centralized as well satoshi mined 1 million coins, as adoption grew he/she was diluted, but still if satoshi wanted to sell those btc it would still damn near destroy btc’s price. I’d bet my life next bull run it will pump harder then btc like it did last bull run. That was one of the coins you could of been rich if you got in the beginning with a relatively small investment.
 
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There are non kyc fiat on ramps? Or are you just moving around the crypto you already had?

You are late to the bitcoin maxi party it’s to top heavy. If I was going into anyone coin it would be eth it does what bitcoin does and does what bitcoin can’t do. Look at the bear market rally eth was at 150% at its high from this years bottom btc barely did 20% so far, I believe this is how it will be moving forward.

Solana isn’t a scam it actually has web3 application and nft capabilities. Something bitcoin doesn’t. It is centralized and does go down, but that’s why it’s still beta. You also have to remember when btc first came out it was centralized as well satoshi mined 1 million coins, as adoption grew he/she was diluted, but still if satoshi wanted to sell those btc it would still damn near destroy btc’s price. I’d bet my life next bull run it will pump harder then btc like it did last bull run. That was one of the coins you could of been rich if you got in the beginning with a relatively small investment.

Yes, there are non-kyc fiat on-ramps. RoboSats is one of them. I detailed my experience in using it on the previous page. I used Strike to pay a seller cash, and was given bitcoin in exchange. No ID. No registration. There are other similar platforms, like Bisq, hodlhodl, and LocalCryptos. There are tutorial videos on how to use them. There are also ATMs that don't require ID if the withdrawal is below is a certain amount. ATMs tend to have a higher premium - like 10% minimum. I've yet to use one, but will try to before the end of this year just to get the experience.

Find ATMs here: https://coinatmradar.com/

On your second point, global bitcoin adoption is at 1-2% at best. This party is just barely getting started. Adoption will continue and will even be kicked up a notch these next few years as the declining value of all fiat money due to central bank money printing becomes undeniable to more and more people. People are looking for safe havens on where to store their wealth in this environment. Thus far, bitcoin has been an excellent long term store of value. Short term? Yes, there's a lot of volatility. I'm in my thirties though, so I don't mind the volatility, especially since it's a volatility that is ultimately on an upward trajectory.

As for the lack of "web3" and NFT junk, I'm glad none of that bullshyt is present on bitcoin right now. Unfortunately, I don't think this will always be the case. Bitcoin is an open source monetary network. It's the Linux of money. Anybody crap can be built on it, with bitcoin acting as the settlement layer.

On one level, whether bitcoin goes to $100k, $1mil or more, it doesn't matter, because it's technically fulfilling its purpose right now. It's decentralized enough to survive attacks from state actors, allowing it to function as stateless money.; money that cannot be debased from central banks and is free from the influence of governments. The most important aspects of bitcoin are the most underrated. Everyone pays attention to "money go up," and that's fine, that's what brought me and almost everyone else into bitcoin/crypto. That said, its decentralization, and, thus, censorship resistant nature is everything. Your wealth can't be seized/frozen, like a traditional bank account, or like it has with USDC/Tether if these assets come into contact with blacklisted wallet addresses.

It's bitcoin that has bureaucrats like the Nigerian senator below saying what he said:





I think bitcoin is poised to absorb weak fiat currencies in the coming years and decades.

I think the existence of bitcoin is why 100+ countries are working on CBDCs - to prevent capital flight from their devalued/worthless currencies:


Last month, the European Central Bank put out a paper on the "holy grail" of cross border payments: https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/s...80438.en.pdf?972bbc119868c193467dc86f4a7cf706

^ Its conclusion was CBDC is the best option, of course, but bitcoin was mentioned 199 times, ethereum, twice, and CBDC about 50 times.



Bitcoin is the standard.
 
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I’m DCAing into ETH

And also in 2 defi projects. DRIP and EMP money. Drip is the main one, check out some of the YouTube vids on it
 

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What type of returns are you brehs getting on drip?

The returns are the same for everyone 1% daily. I have 80 drip in the faucet I’m hydrating 10 at a time until 100 then once a month moving forward until the next bull run where I will let drip accumulate till it reaches its high for that run then cash out the drip i accumulated then rinse and repeat
 

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This isn't the first crypto bear market. It's been happening since BTC went to mainnet almost like it has a pattern. 12/2013 it made ATH a year later 1/2015 it made a new bottom. New ATH 12/2017 bottoms again 12/2018, new ATH 11/2021. So, if history is going to repeat itself, we should bottom out around wintertime barring all out Nuclear War happens prior. View the chart here set it to "log" to make the ATH and bottom's more easily visible: Bitcoin price today, BTC to USD live, marketcap and chart | CoinMarketCap

When it bottoms what to do? If you are not heavy into this space or don't have a heavy appetite for volatility I would look into ETH and BTC again this is not financial advice. I don't see BTC going down to 0 due to nostalgia, 'store' of value and most coins on CEX (Central exchanges) are paired with it meaning you can use BTC to purchase other ALT coins usually without having to use FIAT. ETH is the first coin to really expand on the no middlemen with DeFi (Decentralized finance) and with the upgrade from last 9/2021 it became deflationary so now it's more suitable to be a store of value similar to BTC. IMHO ETH has more upside since there is more utility and will be going Proof of Stake in August a more energy efficient cryptographic proof and a complete upgrade to ETH 2.0 possibly by the next bull run, again not financial advice just my observations.

Things from my observation that add value to crypto that isn't real utility; Exchange listings (bigger the exchange the bigger the pump) Tweets/mentions by influencers (IE Elon Musk with dogecoin)

Utility that adds value to crypto; Blockchain that have the capability for smart contracts (these are what most if not all DeFi projects are wrapped in) and the ability to host NFT's. Being able to bridge coins from different blockchains (specifically ETH since it is the leader). Lower fees on Ethereum (When many people are using the Ethereum blockchain fees go up this is only an issue in DeFi) and increase speeds on Ethereum blockchain (Fees go up speed goes down). Some are side chains some are Ethereum "Forks", where someone picks a block on the blockchain and forks it like a fork in a road 1 becomes 2. Forks have become very popular after early 2021 blockchain was criticized due to high energy demand via Proof of Work Cryptographic proof. All the ETH forks are proof of stake a more energy efficient proof. Creation of a DAO (Decentralized Autonomous Organization). This gives the ownership of the platform back to the people. DAO tokens are governance tokens which allow you to vote on matters that will affect the protocol. Metaverse (selling virtual land, clothes in a video game universe etc.) buzz word not sure how much it's going to differ from online gaming now besides adding crypto and wallets, I guess ownership is a good thing even if that's the only difference. Staking, staking is an act of holding coins usually to add liquidity and in turn for holding your coins you earn more coins in the process. This can be done CEX and DEX's (decentralized exchange). DEX's are preferred since if a CEX goes bankrupt your coins/money are gone with it. We see that with celsius which still hasn't resumed withdrawals. Not your Wallet not your crypto!

I think I touched on most of the things. Alt coins i'm looking to increase my bags before the next bull run.

BNB-Binance Coin, powers the largest CEX by volume and they have an ETH fork called the Binance Smart Chain at its peak it was the 3rd largest crypto by market cap
Sol-Solana- New Blockchain which has smart contract combability 2nd or 3rd most used DeFi blockchain. Still in BETA at its peak i believe in briefly flipped BNB for 3rd largest
ADA- Cardano New blockchain by ETH co-founder, deployed smart contracts this year and just released an ETH bridge 2nd or 3rd most used DeFIi block chain
XRP-Ripple legacy crypto survived a crypto winter already only issue is the SEC labeled it a security, so it isn't sold on any US compliant CEX's.
XLM- Stellar survived a crypto winter already released DeFi project spring 2021 didn't gain to much traction but should still be around come next bull run
AXS- Axie- this was the most popular crypto related game so popular the creators had to move the game off the ethereum block chain because due to fees it was becoming unusable. Now it has its own ETH fork specific for block chain gamin called the Ronin Network. I heard someone say this could be the 'Steam' of the blockchain that made me extremely bullish on this ecosystem in general.
Hex- This is my wildcard created by Richard Heart he has been in the crypto space since the beginning. It is the first CD on the blockchain giving out a persistent 3.69% to stakers. Since only 10% of supply is staked stakers are getting 37% apr compounded daily. This coin came out 12/2019 and plummeted 95%. from that bottom it did 10000X meaning if you put in 100 bucks at that time at its ATH which was 9/2021 you would have been a millionaire. He now is making a fork of ETH called pulsechain for his coin hex and other ERC-20(smart contract coins on the ETH blockchain) because it's a staking coin, to stake and unstake costs fees on Ethereum which can be so high that they eat all your profits. So, his fork is supposed to be faster and cheaper
Ape- Ape coin from the creators of BAYC MAYC. Ape is supposed to take those 2 things into the metaverse. I don't see why the popularity of BAYC and MAYC won't translate to Apecoin

Shout out to Shiba inu and Dogecoin. Influencers are determined for these coins to have value so I'd put some money in them to they will most likely pump next bullrun which is set historically 4 years after the ATH which would be winter 2025-2026.

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Ok quick midterm report on my picks, everything is up from the bottom, my star which was my lottery pick HEX has been the best performer 6x from bottom before retracement LFG!
 

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This isn't the first crypto bear market. It's been happening since BTC went to mainnet almost like it has a pattern. 12/2013 it made ATH a year later 1/2015 it made a new bottom. New ATH 12/2017 bottoms again 12/2018, new ATH 11/2021. So, if history is going to repeat itself, we should bottom out around wintertime barring all out Nuclear War happens prior. View the chart here set it to "log" to make the ATH and bottom's more easily visible: Bitcoin price today, BTC to USD live, marketcap and chart | CoinMarketCap

When it bottoms what to do? If you are not heavy into this space or don't have a heavy appetite for volatility I would look into ETH and BTC again this is not financial advice. I don't see BTC going down to 0 due to nostalgia, 'store' of value and most coins on CEX (Central exchanges) are paired with it meaning you can use BTC to purchase other ALT coins usually without having to use FIAT. ETH is the first coin to really expand on the no middlemen with DeFi (Decentralized finance) and with the upgrade from last 9/2021 it became deflationary so now it's more suitable to be a store of value similar to BTC. IMHO ETH has more upside since there is more utility and will be going Proof of Stake in August a more energy efficient cryptographic proof and a complete upgrade to ETH 2.0 possibly by the next bull run, again not financial advice just my observations.

Things from my observation that add value to crypto that isn't real utility; Exchange listings (bigger the exchange the bigger the pump) Tweets/mentions by influencers (IE Elon Musk with dogecoin)

Utility that adds value to crypto; Blockchain that have the capability for smart contracts (these are what most if not all DeFi projects are wrapped in) and the ability to host NFT's. Being able to bridge coins from different blockchains (specifically ETH since it is the leader). Lower fees on Ethereum (When many people are using the Ethereum blockchain fees go up this is only an issue in DeFi) and increase speeds on Ethereum blockchain (Fees go up speed goes down). Some are side chains some are Ethereum "Forks", where someone picks a block on the blockchain and forks it like a fork in a road 1 becomes 2. Forks have become very popular after early 2021 blockchain was criticized due to high energy demand via Proof of Work Cryptographic proof. All the ETH forks are proof of stake a more energy efficient proof. Creation of a DAO (Decentralized Autonomous Organization). This gives the ownership of the platform back to the people. DAO tokens are governance tokens which allow you to vote on matters that will affect the protocol. Metaverse (selling virtual land, clothes in a video game universe etc.) buzz word not sure how much it's going to differ from online gaming now besides adding crypto and wallets, I guess ownership is a good thing even if that's the only difference. Staking, staking is an act of holding coins usually to add liquidity and in turn for holding your coins you earn more coins in the process. This can be done CEX and DEX's (decentralized exchange). DEX's are preferred since if a CEX goes bankrupt your coins/money are gone with it. We see that with celsius which still hasn't resumed withdrawals. Not your Wallet not your crypto!

I think I touched on most of the things. Alt coins i'm looking to increase my bags before the next bull run.

BNB-Binance Coin, powers the largest CEX by volume and they have an ETH fork called the Binance Smart Chain at its peak it was the 3rd largest crypto by market cap
Sol-Solana- New Blockchain which has smart contract combability 2nd or 3rd most used DeFi blockchain. Still in BETA at its peak i believe in briefly flipped BNB for 3rd largest
ADA- Cardano New blockchain by ETH co-founder, deployed smart contracts this year and just released an ETH bridge 2nd or 3rd most used DeFIi block chain
XRP-Ripple legacy crypto survived a crypto winter already only issue is the SEC labeled it a security, so it isn't sold on any US compliant CEX's.
XLM- Stellar survived a crypto winter already released DeFi project spring 2021 didn't gain to much traction but should still be around come next bull run
AXS- Axie- this was the most popular crypto related game so popular the creators had to move the game off the ethereum block chain because due to fees it was becoming unusable. Now it has its own ETH fork specific for block chain gamin called the Ronin Network. I heard someone say this could be the 'Steam' of the blockchain that made me extremely bullish on this ecosystem in general.
Hex- This is my wildcard created by Richard Heart he has been in the crypto space since the beginning. It is the first CD on the blockchain giving out a persistent 3.69% to stakers. Since only 10% of supply is staked stakers are getting 37% apr compounded daily. This coin came out 12/2019 and plummeted 95%. from that bottom it did 10000X meaning if you put in 100 bucks at that time at its ATH which was 9/2021 you would have been a millionaire. He now is making a fork of ETH called pulsechain for his coin hex and other ERC-20(smart contract coins on the ETH blockchain) because it's a staking coin, to stake and unstake costs fees on Ethereum which can be so high that they eat all your profits. So, his fork is supposed to be faster and cheaper
Ape- Ape coin from the creators of BAYC MAYC. Ape is supposed to take those 2 things into the metaverse. I don't see why the popularity of BAYC and MAYC won't translate to Apecoin

Shout out to Shiba inu and Dogecoin. Influencers are determined for these coins to have value so I'd put some money in them to they will most likely pump next bullrun which is set historically 4 years after the ATH which would be winter 2025-2026.

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BNB- CZ out WEF in. not a good thing
SOL- 15Xish from $8 bottom to $125
ADA- a little tear up to 70 cents from 22 cents
XRP- beat the case I expect it to reach previous ATH of $3
XLM- up from the bottom
AXS- ran up to 11$ from $4 bottom, its gas token RON 11xed from 20 cent bottom to 2.10
HEX- bottomed at .0028 currently .0043 still real cheap
Ape- bottomed at 98 cents ran up to 1.90 so far

After the BTC halvening things will move real fast
 

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BNB- CZ out WEF in. not a good thing
SOL- 15Xish from $8 bottom to $125
ADA- a little tear up to 70 cents from 22 cents
XRP- beat the case I expect it to reach previous ATH of $3
XLM- up from the bottom
AXS- ran up to 11$ from $4 bottom, its gas token RON 11xed from 20 cent bottom to 2.10
HEX- bottomed at .0028 currently .0043 still real cheap
Ape- bottomed at 98 cents ran up to 1.90 so far

After the BTC halvening things will move real fast
I noticed you posted these about 2 years ago and you just posted these updates. So these are the coins you’re still bullish on with the exception of BNB. I have xrp, algo, and xlm. I’m trying to get a lot more. What are your thoughts and where are you doing your research to give you confidence in the coins your investing in? I’m always looking for resources and ppl to discuss this stuff with.

I try Reddit but it gets dizzyingly overwhelming bc most do not discuss this stuff in plain English.
 

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Looking to sell either litecoin, harmony, vethor token or vechain

Which would yall recommend I go ahead and take profits on? Not seeing much upside with these

Also is BNB a no go?
 

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I noticed you posted these about 2 years ago and you just posted these updates. So these are the coins you’re still bullish on with the exception of BNB. I have xrp, algo, and xlm. I’m trying to get a lot more. What are your thoughts and where are you doing your research to give you confidence in the coins your investing in? I’m always looking for resources and ppl to discuss this stuff with.

I try Reddit but it gets dizzyingly overwhelming bc most do not discuss this stuff in plain English.
Twitter/x is probably the best place to get information but it is the wild Wild West don’t click on random airdrop links you will get your wallet drained from the wrong one. Lots of scammers.

Me I look at price chart and its use case. Axie is a gaming token and has its own block chain so I checked out the eco system saw it looked finished.

Solana I used the blockchain and biggest complaint was it goes down during heavy usage hasn’t gone down in over a year 🤞🏾.

HEX the founder is a billionaire and is in it for the glory he wants to pump the price and make people rich. It just ripped the passed 30 days

BNB still solid but with the ‘insiders’ in control the upside probably isn’t as high but the down side probably isn’t as low

I don’t expect much from xlm unless it’s blockchain/smart contracts get more adoption. Got a decent amount of the liquidity token if it does 🤑
We can discuss in this thread.
 
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