Discussion in 'The Booth' started by savoutch, May 16, 2021.
The obsession with Alchemist's drums on this forum
low key, some of it started from me caping for him in 2011/2013, and then I kind of flipped.
As long as it’s dope it’s dope. I’m cool with drums or no drums. When I dislike beats without drums, it’s usually because I don’t love the sample.
This new Ev single produced by Animoss has no drums and I like it more than the Alc single with drums.
Another classic incoming
Exactly history has shown ALC can deliver I’m not about to question if he can drop quality projects
I've realised that the problem isn't Alchemist. The problem is the rappers who pick his beats. If he producing for Roc or Earl you can be 99% sure of little to no drums. Whereas if he is producing for Gibbs or Benny you can get at least a 70% chance of drums.
Even Gibbs likes a lot of lighter drums. But if you listen to what is picked by Conway, Benny, Boldy, or Evidence, you'll almost always get some more traditional bangers.
Lulu with Conway was a lot of new, almost live drum sounds.
Hell, Al's been doing quasi-trap and bouncy type joints recently for Boldy,
I lowkey want to submit alchemist obscure songs for him to sample/flip but I think he prefers vinyl over CDQ like every other 'purist' producer
his 2012-13 output was insane -- the best beats for those years was essentially his shyt...he put down so much groundwork for other producers to re-sample later...
Alchemist needs to step up his A&R producer role and forge collabos like Curren$y X Nas...a lot of these first time collabos paired with great production would break the internet
Freddie Joachim is another producer that literally treats beat making like a 9-5. Homie takes lunch breaks and all and shuts it down at 6PM/
You can def see his mindset has shifted in recent years and he's all-in on the business side. Vinyl sales, artwork, clothes...he's def building the brand right now, moreso than a decade ago. There's a lot of money to be made here. Not necessarily millions of dollars but look at the Alfredo album.
I think part of this is the influence/presence of Hip Hop, ie Joshua Kyambo. And we know he worked closely with Nas and A&R'd that Nas Album Done project that we never got. Hip Hop said the very first place he brought Nas was to Alchemist's house/studio. Could Nas/Alch be the secret project Nas alluded to? I def think it's possible. And @TheDarceKnight said Nas and Alch got a few records recorded in the last couple years.
9th Wonder also on that 9-5 time. He’d always gear up in the morning and shut it down in the afternoon.
This work ethic for sure you know they have tons of beats on a hard drive just sitting.
Very few are more prolific than these two. So I'm always in for whatever they drop. Especially together!