Cut Tical 2000 down to 17 songs and you've got a great album. Debatable classic even

[Zero]

I keep coming back to this album and honestly? It's got some of Meth's best work on here. Trim the fat and it would've been better recieved...you can't tell me these tracks still don't go hard







These 2 in particular have RIDICULOUS production with verses to match










and so on. Streetlife was all over this album and didn't waste a single verse or feel out of place. Shame he never got out of Meth's shadow after this.

As I said, cut this down to 17 songs and you would've had a banger. Possible classic.

1. Judgement Day (Intro)
2. Perfect World
3. Cradle Rock
4. Dangerous Grounds
5. Sweet Love (just tack the 7 second skit to the beginning of this...no idea why that wasn't the case)
6. Shaolin What
7. Torture
8. Suspect Chin Music
9. Spazzola
10. Grid Iron Rap
11. Step By Step
12. Play IV Keeps
13. Snuffed Out
14. Elements
15. Killin' Fields
16. Big Dogs
17. Judgement Day

That right there is at least 4 mics . Perfect World is the only questionable track for me and that's really only because of the beat but Meth kills his verses well enough for me to keep it.

All those unnecessary skits really killed this album's momentum, even the "funny" ones. Retro Godfather isn't a terrible song, but it doesn't deserve to share the album space as the rest. Party Crasher is just mediocre all around, from the verses to the beat. And I might catch some flack for this one but Break Ups 2 Make Ups never did much for me, prime D'angelo be damned.


If this was the album we got, perception of his career probably would've turned around. We might've still got Blackout with Red but I can confidently say we wouldn't have gotten the that was Tical 0. Whatever 4:21 would've become wouldn't have been a "too little, too late" album that was better recieved.

If only though....

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

It's my favorite meth album.

Any time I revisits wu's catalogue it's amazing how his first album just does not stack up to the rest of the wu solos of the time considering he was THE guy.

 

[Zero]

It's my favorite meth album.

Any time I revisits wu's catalogue it's amazing how his first album just does not stack up to the rest of the wu solos of the time considering he was THE guy.

If only RZA's basement didn't flood, we might've gotten Tical how it was originally intended

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

If only RZA's basement didn't flood, we might've gotten Tical how it was originally intended

Yup.


This album suffered from bloat that was typical of hip hop of around this time. Budgets were out of control,crazy videos,every album being 20 tracks and shyt


But the production was and meth and street were on point.

 

[criminology]

Why did you cut the Donald Trump skit?

Hopefully you don't criticize reasonable doubt as a revisionist classic. shaolin what was one of the best 4th Disciple beats ever. snuffed out was great. But that's like 3 minutes of music. There were a few other tracks but the rest was a let down.

Doc's da name>>>

 

[Ohene]

this is common knowledge

 

[Xtz23]

Killin fields & torture

I think it's alright it could've been better. the og version of party crasher would've been dope af the album version doesn't compare.

 

[Alpha Male]

Great album OP but I actually think the worst song is judgement day.

Perfect World was >>>>

 

[DaveyDave]

giving this album another go, i'll cut it down to this tracklist you're talking about. every time i check it out i never get into it.

 

[Pinyapplesuckas]

Always liked Tical2000 more than Tical. i DO wish it didnt have all the skits....thats the true fat of the record..i pretty much liked all of the songs

I prefer Ironman's production to Tical/Cuban Linx

 

[Roxx the King]

Tical 200 was fire minus the excess. This was late 90s when album promo and budgets were insane. Meth just did too much but some of those songs were incredible. All the joints OP listed and a few more. That album had the most replay value out of the joints that dropped around that time to me. I always thought flesh of my flesh was overrated.

 

[bordeaux]

retro godfather?

i always thought it was a good album. i remember the judgement day video got heavy airplay when i was a kid. was the album not received well when it came out?

 

[gottah8me]

How you gonna cut out Break ups 2 make up

 

[TripleAgent]

I might trim another one or two. Then we're talking possible classic. Very dipe album regardless though.

 

[JAY?]

Suspect chin music was my shyt