Shooting isn't exactly his problem. He's still making boneheaded turnovers and it seems like he isn't learning from themlooks like Spo is just going to evaluate the waiver wire guys tonight so I'm probably gonna switch to the WNBA game
as for the last spot discussion, Weber is worth it for his defense alone. 15th man is going to be in a sports coat most nights anyway, just put him on that J-Rich '15 shooting plan where he's locked in a gym obscure hours of the night not leaving until he's hit 70 of 100 3's. There's no reason to give that spot to a veteran like Udrih
D-Wait is over. Let the rebuild begin... The Official 2016-2017 Miami Heat Season Thread
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Miami's defensive intensity is leading to offensive execution. They're fighting their way back with all 2nd string guys. Good shyt.
McGruder has looked good.
THis team can legit go 10-deep like thos Hubie Brown Memphis teams a few years ago
McGruder has looked good.
THis team can legit go 10-deep like thos Hubie Brown Memphis teams a few years ago
charlotte dancers..one with the fro wasnt no damn joke 
I was trying to capture all the angles, you get a lil glimpse in the 2nd pic
I was trying to capture all the angles, you get a lil glimpse in the 2nd pic
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Spo is playing Briante and McGruder so much it makes me think he's tryna decide between them 2
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Out of all the new additions this year Williams has been the most impressive this preseason
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Watching this team in the preaseason you can't tell me we're not gonna be about as good as last year. Playoffs is a must barring injuries
If he can knock down a few open shots a game with regularity it would be a big plus. Him, JJ, and Waiters are all playing for big deals on the open market next summer so I'm expecting productive seasons from them all. Willie Reed also had a pretty good preseason..I wish he was like 10 lbs heavier but I think he's this year's Biyombo signing, the guy folks are going to be wondering how did we get him for so cheap.
I wanted us to keep him last seeason precisely because of what happened in the Raptors series
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@ the ending of the interview. I am surprised he said acquiring Eddie Jones was the most complicated trade he worked on. I thought it would've been that huge trade that got us Antoine Walker, Posey, & JWill. It's reassuring to know we have a guy like this working for the Miami front office. Q&A with Miami Heat General Manager Andy Elisburg | Heat Zone
Q&A with Miami Heat General Manager Andy Elisburg
October 20, 2016
| Filed in: 2016-17 season, Salary cap, Tom D'Angelo, Trades
Heat GM and capologist Andy Elisburg (left) with Pat Riley and Nick Arison.(Getty Images)
MIAMI – Heat coach Erik Spoelstra’s rise from video coordinator to head coach has been well documented. But Spoelstra’s journey is rivaled by General Manager and VP of basketball operations Andy Elisburg, who started as an intern in the Heat’s public relations department before Miami had even played a game.
Elisburg was hired less than two days after receiving his diploma from St. Thomas University.
“I graduated on Monday and started full time Wednesday morning so I’ve been unemployed for 36 hours of my life,” Elisburg says.
I spoke to Elisburg about his rise and how he became the Heat’s leading ‘capologist’ for the latest installment of our question and answer segment we will bring you throughout the season.
Q: How did you get started with the Heat?
AE: “I was at St. Thomas University in sports administration. You had to do an internship with some form of a sports enterprise. I wound up doing it with the Washington Bullets. While I was there I met Mark Pray who was the PR director for the Bullets at the time. I came down here for senior year, two weeks later Mark winds up joining the Heat and we got in touch. At the time there was no PR office of any kind and no media guide. He asked me to get the media guide started and help with getting the office started.”
Q: So perfect timing, right?
AE: “The most perfect time you could come into an organization. There were roughly 20 fulltime people not including players. Today we’re close to 150 people so you were able to get involved in a lot of different things.”
Q: Like learning the complicated rules of the salary cap?
AE: “Because there were so few people there tended to be a little bit of, ‘Okay, we can’t figure it out, give it to Andy, he’ll figure it out.’ I became that guy who figured things out. The computer showed up. I had a computer since I was in high school so they gave it to me. There was a PR account and there was a general manager’s account and I would keep the general manager’s account. After a year they started putting salary information on the GM account, so I started keeping salary information. I started downloading and looking at it to see how trades happen and looked to see how things went from one side to the next and started putting the pieces together in a more coherent fashion to give to them and I just picked it up. When Micky Arison bought the team he hired Dave Wohl and Dave moved me to the basketball side and I wound up becoming a capologist.”
Q: Did you play around with numbers growing up?
AE: “I was never really a numbers guy in that kind of way. It was not really my thing. And still this day accounting isn’t necessarily the thing I love to do. That concept of how the salary cap works. … it’s a combination strategically of how you look at it from a legal document and financial document and just a general planning document I just sort of had a gift for. I all sort of clicked with me.”
Q: What was your most challenging trade to put together?
AE: “When we acquired Eddie Jones. Eddie had base year compensation on one side there were other conditions on the other side. This was a trade with about $15 million on one side, roughly $15 million on the other side that worked by $20,000 on one side of the trade and $1,500 on the other side of the trade. I think I did 120 different versions of the trade. I literally went dollar by dollar, adding dollars to one side and dollars to the other side to make it work. Because Eddie was a free agent you could (play with the numbers) and you had that flexibility.”
(Note: Jones was acquired in a sign-and-trade from Charlotte in 2000 along with Anthony Mason, Ricky Davis and Dale Ellis for P.J. Brown, Jamal Mashburn, Otis Thorpe, Tim James and Rodney Buford.)
Q: Pat Riley recently called you ‘the smartest guy in the room.’ What did that mean to you?
AE: “It was an incredible honor. I like to say you work with incredibly smart people and working with Pat and working with a Micky and (CEO Nick Arison) and a Spo and so many of the others that are here is what makes it all worthwhile. Having now spent 22 years working with Pat, it’s been like a Doctorate. You’re talking about getting the true master class from someone who has been one of the truly great guys in the league.”
Q: What makes Pat who he is?
AE: “He has a vision for seeing things that are just. … He’s not two steps ahead, he’s five steps ahead. He doesn’t look at what it is, he imagines what it could be and has a vision to see things. Being with him and watching some of these things come together and the various trades that have been made, the guys we have acquired and the process we have gone through and a lot of steps that weren’t necessarily automatic, or easy, or without debate. We’ve had our success, we’ve had our failures but that’s part of what makes an incredibly rich life having led.”
Q: So who is your top free agent target next summer?
AE: (silence)
I can't stand his ugly, dumb trash ass but I think Waiters has been the overall most impressive. Playmaking, defense, and shot creation...I'm impressed with how much he's actively trying to find his teammates and his connection with Whiteside.
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Seeing you guys talk it sounds like must of our new players went be back next year...
I don't like this high employee turnover rate. Makes HR look bad
I don't like this high employee turnover rate. Makes HR look bad
madness
Taking my talents to South Beach
Chris Bosh dilemma could put Danilo Gallinari on Miami Heat radar
“Since the Heat’s perimeter defense looks promising and they have [Hassan] Whiteside in the middle, this is a team that can really favor offense at the power forward position. I don’t know how they swing it, but I could see Danilo Gallinari as a great fit in Miami.“
Following Lowe’s strategy eliminates the need to work out a trade since–barring injury–Gallinari is likely to opt out of the final year of his contract for a shot at the increased free agency pie. A pie that president Pat Riley and general manager Andy Elisburg will try to convince him to take less of for the betterment of the team.
Now, fans will question investing in a player who has missed an entire season due to an ACL injury, as well as the final 22 games of last season because of an ankle injury. Especially after going through years of Bosh’s health concerns, Dwyane Wade’s maintenance and a multitude of Josh McRoberts’ ailments.
However their minds should be eased when they notice that the career 15-point scorer has put up multiple 30 and 40-point games since his most devastating injury.
If that is not enticing enough, Gallinari can put the ball on the floor, create his own shot and play either forward position. Couple that with shooting 71 percent from the field and 78 percent from the three with a 94.3 true shooting percentage–this preseason–and the stretch-4 possibilities in Miami become intriguing.
Chris Bosh dilemma could put Danilo Gallinari on Miami Heat radar
“Since the Heat’s perimeter defense looks promising and they have [Hassan] Whiteside in the middle, this is a team that can really favor offense at the power forward position. I don’t know how they swing it, but I could see Danilo Gallinari as a great fit in Miami.“
Following Lowe’s strategy eliminates the need to work out a trade since–barring injury–Gallinari is likely to opt out of the final year of his contract for a shot at the increased free agency pie. A pie that president Pat Riley and general manager Andy Elisburg will try to convince him to take less of for the betterment of the team.
Now, fans will question investing in a player who has missed an entire season due to an ACL injury, as well as the final 22 games of last season because of an ankle injury. Especially after going through years of Bosh’s health concerns, Dwyane Wade’s maintenance and a multitude of Josh McRoberts’ ailments.
However their minds should be eased when they notice that the career 15-point scorer has put up multiple 30 and 40-point games since his most devastating injury.
If that is not enticing enough, Gallinari can put the ball on the floor, create his own shot and play either forward position. Couple that with shooting 71 percent from the field and 78 percent from the three with a 94.3 true shooting percentage–this preseason–and the stretch-4 possibilities in Miami become intriguing.
Chris Bosh dilemma could put Danilo Gallinari on Miami Heat radar
The reality is these are young players (Waiters 24, Reed 26, Williams 25) who took 1 year prove it deals to try to cash out next summer. All of them could've gotten more money elsewhere but this team has gotten a lot of developmental players paid the last few years (here and elsewhere) and guys around the league have taken notice. The math says its not possible to retain them all..we've seen it recently with guys like Deng and Joe Johnson, guys that were here for 2 seasons and less than half a season. That's just the business side of the sport. Now if Williams really impresses I could see them trying to retain him next season because they supposedly liked him in the draft.
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bump for a game night
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