Babyface is more a producer in the hip hop sense than Quincy. Quincy often didn't come up with melodies or play any instruments. He "produced" what was already there in a skeleton beat. There's genius to that but he worked with other geniuses. Quincy produced the way Brian Eno would with bands who largely created their own soundscapes but Eno controlled it.Nah I'mma give goat rnb producer status to quincy jones. Till this day no ones outsold Michael Jackson's thriller. My second runnerup is babyface. Toni braxton's first album had a hit single on each track. That shyt is nigh impossible these days.
Someone like Babyface is writing the song, playing instruments, programming the drums and doing what Quincy did.