Dame Dash Confronts Lee Daniels About His 2 Million Dollars

[Booker T Garvey]

What is this data, article, or anything you speak of? What are you looking for?

let's start here, tell me if this sentence is right or wrong:

"Most movies lose money, especially indie films"

now...if that is a wrong/false sentence, simply provide evidence that suggests otherwise.

if you agree with that sentence, then how you can argue that dame, or anybody that put $$$ up for a film should expect something in return.

just to help put things in perspective - this mvie here cost 30 million to make and didn't even make 500K back

^^ ever even heard of this movie? those are some pretty big stars too..
go down your favorite actors IMDB, most, if not all of them have been in movies that bombed and didn't make any money back; that's just how it is.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

I get the point he's making but this is a stretch..the man created EMPIRE and STAR, he's a millionaire quite a few times over

he's got more than enough money to pay dame back, the issue is that if everybody in hollywood who loaned out big money on a project that failed wanted their money back

there would be no hollywood left. a lot of times investing in films gets people access to other projects, access to other producers, directors, gets you in exclusive events etc etc...

again - what dame is doing is normal for our level, but in hollywood it's just unusual.

 

[Billy Ocean]

let's start here, tell me if this sentence is right or wrong:

"Most movies lose money, especially indie films"

now...if that is a wrong/false sentence, simply provide evidence that suggests otherwise.

if you agree with that sentence, then how you can argue that dame, or anybody that put $$$ up for a film should expect something in return.

just to help put things in perspective - this mvie here cost 30 million to make and didn't even make 500K back

^^ ever even heard of this movie? those are some pretty big stars too..
go down your favorite actors IMDB, most, if not all of them have been in movies that bombed and didn't make any money back; that's just how it is.

The notion that most movies don't make a profit is a farce. Fallacy and a corrupt system generated by studios so they won't have to compensate writers, story developers and actors on the backend. It's been going on for ages. Film investors usually get back what they invested sooner or later.

 

[eastside313]

This isn’t true, there are benefits to investing in films, it’s just not the same as investing in real estate.

Also many people invest in films for the art/culture - again look at Malcolm X’s investors, look at the beginning of Ken burns documentaries and count the investors

Bruh stop it. People invest in films to make money. Don’t cherry pick a passion type project like Malcolm x.

 

[Xecutioner]

I don't understand how people don't make money investing in movies when there's two marvel movies that made over a billion alone this year. Movies like A Quite Place did well also

 

[FlimFlam]

Dames direct connection and contributions to so many stratospheric success stories is nuts....

 

[TripleAgent]

At this stage, he may as well sue him. He can ask for the 2 mill, plus damages, plus legal fees, plus interest, plus film profits. And now, he had him admitting he owes on camera.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

Bruh stop it. People invest in films to make money. Don’t cherry pick a passion type project like Malcolm x.

I just told you why people invest in films

I'm not about to repeat myself but simply look at LEE DANIELS movies:

SHADOWBOXER - only made 500K (no budget provided - movie dame helped produce)
THE WOODSMAN - only made 300K (no budget provided - another movie dame helped produce)
PRECIOUS - 10 million dollar budget, 47 million gross
PAPERBOY - 12 million dollar budget - 690K gross
THE BUTLER - 30 million dollar budget - 130 million gross

^^^ most of his movies don't make money.

don't take my word for it, look it up. Spike hasn't had a movie to actually make money since 2006 (inside man)

I don't understand how people don't make money investing in movies when there's two marvel movies that made over a billion alone this year. Movies like A Quite Place did well also

and this is the problem people make when this discussion comes up they think of the movies that make 500 million - 1 billion dollars

like I said, just look up your favorite stars and directors and check their box office receipts, you'll see hits and misses and movies you never even heard of

it's not easy to make a 100 million dollar grossing film, especially one that only cost about half of that to make.

 

[eastside313]

I just told you why people invest in films

I'm not about to repeat myself but simply look at LEE DANIELS movies:

SHADOWBOXER - only made 500K (no budget provided - movie dame helped produce)
THE WOODSMAN - only made 300K (no budget provided - another movie dame helped produce)
PRECIOUS - 10 million dollar budget, 47 million gross
PAPERBOY - 12 million dollar budget - 690K gross
THE BUTLER - 30 million dollar budget - 130 million gross

^^^ most of his movies don't make money.

don't take my word for it, look it up. Spike hasn't had a movie to actually make money since 2006 (inside man)




and this is the problem people make when this discussion comes up they think of the movies that make 500 million - 1 billion dollars

like I said, just look up your favorite stars and directors and check their box office receipts, you'll see hits and misses and movies you never even heard of

it's not easy to make a 100 million dollar grossing film, especially one that only cost about half of that to make.

dame said it himself he made money on the woodsman

If a studio produces a movie and investors lose, they don’t just say ol well you lost your money. They get in on other projects. If most movies didn’t make money Hollywood would not be a multi billion dollar industry.

 

[blizzard man]

The notion that most movies don't make a profit is a farce. Fallacy and a corrupt system generated by studios so they won't have to compensate writers, story developers and actors on the backend. It's been going on for ages. Film investors usually get back what they invested sooner or later.

breh is pretty solidly right, but investing in films is just notoriously known as a very risky investment to the average person, there's no guaranteed ROI.

getting back your money on a film is very hit or miss, but if the movie makes any sort of money, investors are ideally paid back first, along with anyone else on the front end who has some stake in ownership/distribution

people like us investing in movies, aint plugged in so we are investing in shyt that 98% of the time, wont make anything back unless it gets some run on netflix or another streaming services or can get sold overseas, etc. investing in movies when youre actually an industry player is a different story, but even they can take L's investing in the wrong joints, but like someone else said, they can still get access into other projects if they invest in something that flops and makes 0.

however, dame lending lee daniels 2 mil for a movie that went to the oscars and was a darling of the year? breh shoulda seen his money back i figure, especially if he got his money back on the woodsman

 

[JordanWearinThe45]

At this stage, he may as well sue him. He can ask for the 2 mill, plus damages, plus legal fees, plus interest, plus film profits. And now, he had him admitting he owes on camera.

Basically. He shoulda been did that

 

[Primetime21]

The last minute was

 

[blankstairz]

1. So, Dame is suing for 5 mil over a Pryor film that never saw the light.

2. He is angry over 2 mil he loaned to Daniels but never received anything back.

So this new lawsuit has nothing to do with Precious.

Does Dame have a case for the Pryor lawsuit? Did he invest money in Pryor movie or was he just listed as an EP ?

Or is this connected? In that Daniels gave Dame the EP credit on the Pryor biopic as making up for not paying up for Precious? Daniels eventually drops the Pryor movie and Dame is still out of 2 mil with no pay-up in some form from Daniels?

What happened to the lawsuit with Precious?

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

1. So, Dame is suing for 5 mil over a Pryor film that never saw the light.

2. He is angry over 2 mil he loaned to Daniels but never received anything back.

So this new lawsuit has nothing to do with Precious.

Does Dame have a case for the Pryor lawsuit? Did he invest money in Pryor movie or was he just listed as an EP ?

Or is this connected? In that Daniels gave Dame the EP credit on the Pryor biopic as making up for not paying up for Precious? Daniels eventually drops the Pryor movie and Dame is still out of 2 mil with no pay-up in some form from Daniels?

What happened to the lawsuit with Precious?

The individual projects are irrelevant. Look at it like this.

1. You loan me money for a project.
2. For whatever reason, I don't make any money so I can't pay you off that project.
3. To make things right, I tell you that I will give you a percentage of future projects i'm on until you're paid up.
4. I don't put you on nothing. In fact, I totally ignore you.
5. TO pour salt on your wounds, my career blows up and I'm at the Oscars on some

 

[blankstairz]

The individual projects are irrelevant. Look at it like this.

1. You loan me money for a project.
2. For whatever reason, I don't make any money so I can't pay you off that project.
3. To make things right, I tell you that I will give you a percentage of future projects i'm on until you're paid up.
4. I don't put you on nothing. In fact, I totally ignore you.
5. TO pour salt on your wounds, my career blows up and I'm at the Oscars on some

All well and good,but it is relevant if he can't get money out of Daniels all of these years.

Next logical step is court.

1. Does Dame have a case for the Pryor 5 million lawsuit though?

2. Did Dame sue for his 2 mil for Precious?