DAME DASH EXPLAINS HOW HE OUTGREW ROCAFELLA... 🟨 MATH HOFFA

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Dame is only loyal to his ego.....

Not true, at all.

Dude has the same people around him today, that he had around him pre-Roc and before he even met Jay. All of which he helps in mad different ways. Dude is literally one of the few loyal people in the music business.Y'all just be on here saying whatever, lol. Dame is a good dude.
 

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Not true, at all.

Dude has the same people around him today, that he had around him pre-Roc and before he even met Jay. All of which he helps in mad different ways. Dude is literally one of the few loyal people in the music business.Y'all just be on here saying whatever, lol. Dame is a good dude.

Why would you say Biggs is still cool with Jay, and not so much with Dame?
 

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Theres literal video footage of the moment that Hov decided he outgrew, and was done with Dame and the
State Prop dudes. But Dame wants to make it sound like its the other way around :pachaha::dead:
 

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Exactly.

Birdman made another, Lyor made another, Kevin lyles made another, Jimmy Iovine has made another, Dr Dre has made another. Puff has made another.

The fact that Dame has not is on him, ESPECIALLY in such a lick of an industry. Nggas who were damn DJs while roc was on top are eating healthy off the industry. So many people have lapped him. The industry is designed for people in the background to eat. Dane dash found a way to be the only music exec to get jerked :dead:

Yet dame has folk fooled to think he got ‘tired’ of the music industry. Nah he burned bridges. Also his irrational ‘i treat business like the streets’ mentality

this post is ether. all facts.
 

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Theres literal video footage of the moment that Hov decided he outgrew, and was done with Dame and the
State Prop dudes.
But Dame wants to make it sound like its the other way around :pachaha::dead:
That’s not what that clip is showing. Outsiders got a hand of that footage and repurposed it :mjpls:
 

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Not true, at all.

Dude has the same people around him today, that he had around him pre-Roc and before he even met Jay. All of which he helps in mad different ways. Dude is literally one of the few loyal people in the music business.Y'all just be on here saying whatever, lol. Dame is a good dude.

Def Jam era Dame where he told the white guy to clear the fukking sample and made fun of DJ clue's fade is the reason he is on the outside looking in..

I already know he hurt Jay feelings

nikkas know they can't out talk or out joke Dame, so they get him in business...

As I said, I think Dame a genius, but I know how these harlem nikkas get..

Jay like this nikka violated me and i made him millions, imagine what he gonna say to the white executive who said he can get me in a meeting with a billionaire..

Dame gets pissed off and he will fukk up whatever relationship that is happening

Dame wants to sink the titanic and call you a bytch ass nikka cuz you ran to the nearest lifeboat..
 

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Not true, at all.

Dude has the same people around him today, that he had around him pre-Roc and before he even met Jay. All of which he helps in mad different ways. Dude is literally one of the few loyal people in the music business.Y'all just be on here saying whatever, lol. Dame is a good dude.

So does jay :ohhh:

Yet jay is the snake and dame is the loyal one :jbhmm:

Perhaps dudes just like to root for the underdog….And the irony of that is what’s deemed a ‘underdog’ fluctuates. The same way w/ jay it’s only people he’s surpassed that call him out —-Dehaven, Klein, etc—-go ask Jim Jones how he feels (felt) about Dame. Or Currensy

:ufdup:
 

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So does jay :ohhh:

Yet jay is the snake and dame is the loyal one :jbhmm:

Perhaps dudes just like to root for the underdog….And the irony of that is what’s deemed a ‘underdog’ fluctuates. The same way w/ jay it’s only people he’s surpassed that call him out —-Dehaven, Klein, etc—-go ask Jim Jones how he feels (felt) about Dame. Or Currensy

:ufdup:

Nah, Dame has like 20+ of the same people around him. On a personal level. With Jay, as Dame has pointed out, the people around Jay all work for him. So they have to stay good with him, he's their boss.

Jay said himself that he has "a couple" people around him that's been there since day one. Dame has people around him that don’t work for him, but are just actual friends that aren't connected to anything he's doing or ever did in business. That's how you really see loyalty. They're not there for a job. Or bread.

I never said Jay was a snake. But with all the people I know who work for him, those aren't friendships, they're jobs. I'm talking about loyalty to people who don’t do anything for you, and who you don’t employ. There's a huge difference.
 

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Nah, Dame has like 20+ of the same people around him. On a personal level. With Jay, as Dame has pointed out, the people around Jay all work for him. So they have to stay good with him, he's their boss.

Jay said himself that he has "a couple" people around him that's been there since day one. Dame has people around him that don’t work for him, but are just actual friends that aren't connected to anything he's doing or ever did in business. That's how you really see loyalty. They're not there for a job. Or bread.

I never said Jay was a snake. But with all the people I know who work for him, those aren't friendships, they're jobs. I'm talking about loyalty to people who don’t do anything for you, and who you don’t employ. There's a huge difference.
So many say jay a snake

Be honest if jay did everything others wanted him to do

Where would he be now?

I still believe they all had something to do with the brake up evenly


But I have a feeling dame did something he not willing to say


Jay don’t talk and Biggs don’t talk

Dame change the story a lot


Something not adding up

It can’t be

Jay is a snake dame is the saint and Biggs didn’t know what was going on

It just can’t be
 

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So many say jay a snake

Be honest if jay did everything others wanted him to do

Where would he be now?

I still believe they all had something to do with the brake up evenly


But I have a feeling dame did something he not willing to say


Jay don’t talk and Biggs don’t talk

Dame change the story a lot


Something not adding up

It can’t be

Jay is a snake dame is the saint and Biggs didn’t know what was going on

It just can’t be

I can't even say. But as far as Jay, I still think more loyalty to the dude that invested in you, fought for you, and believed in you, should've been shown, at least. Dame felt betrayed, he said. I think he could've handled it better. But I don’t agree with how shady the backroom dealings were, to push him out. That wasn't cool.

Dame was knocking on a million doors for Jay, and fighting for the dude to get a shot. I think at a bare minimum, you show that dude loyalty. You don’t have to agree with everything he says and does, but you at least don’t go behind his back and work with the people who hate him, to get him outta there. That's kinda wild to do. So Dame isn't perfect, but I've never heard one story about him turning on people or backstabbing them. That's not who he is.
 

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I can't even say. But as far as Jay, I still think more loyalty to the dude that invested in you, fought for you, and believed in you, should've been shown, at least. Dame felt betrayed, he said. I think he could've handled it better. But I don’t agree with how shady the backroom dealings were, to push him out. That wasn't cool.

Dame was knocking on a million doors for Jay, and fighting for the dude to get a shot. I think at a bare minimum, you show that dude loyalty. You don’t have to agree with everything he says and does, but you at least don’t go behind his back and work with the people who hate him, to get him outta there. That's kinda wild to do. So Dame isn't perfect, but I've never heard one story about him turning on people or backstabbing them. That's not who he is.
jay stuck with dame for 10 years. it ain’t much more he could do for do for dame. Hell They still could did business together after 2005 in some form but Dame is unbearable.
 

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It's not really my place to say, but I'll say, lol.

The issues were brewing way before the label breakup. And like I said in my other post, Dame is all about loyalty. That's the code. Jay is my guy, but he was making moves that only benefited himself, and was setting up deals and relationships for down the line that didn't involve Dame and Biggs. It just seemed like he started planning his own post-Roc career, but left everyone else out. I think that made Dame start doing petty sh*t in response, like giving out VP positions at the label to people Jay didn't like. After that, it was never the same.

So my opinion is that Jay should have been more loyal and that Dame should have handled how he responded to the situation much better.
When has loyalty EVER been part of the rubric for making business decisions :heh:

By your logic the Jackson 5 would still be goin strong now :beli: Beyonce would still be a Destiny Child…Justin Timberlake would still be N’ Sync….

At the end of the day, everybody can’t go. Period.

And that can apply to ANYBODY, so it damn sure can apply to somebody a) who CLEARLY was behaving in a way that was not a good look professionally, and b) he met thru business. That’s not his day 1, they didn’t go half on a chop cheese :mjtf: Nggas are delusional thinkin he owed Dame something
 
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It's not really my place to say, but I'll say, lol.

The issues were brewing way before the label breakup. And like I said in my other post, Dame is all about loyalty. That's the code. Jay is my guy, but he was making moves that only benefited himself, and was setting up deals and relationships for down the line that didn't involve Dame and Biggs. It just seemed like he started planning his own post-Roc career, but left everyone else out. I think that made Dame start doing petty sh*t in response, like giving out VP positions at the label to people Jay didn't like. After that, it was never the same.

So my opinion is that Jay should have been more loyal and that Dame should have handled how he responded to the situation much better.
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I can't even say. But as far as Jay, I still think more loyalty to the dude that invested in you, fought for you, and believed in you, should've been shown, at least. Dame felt betrayed, he said. I think he could've handled it better. But I don’t agree with how shady the backroom dealings were, to push him out. That wasn't cool.

Dame was knocking on a million doors for Jay, and fighting for the dude to get a shot. I think at a bare minimum, you show that dude loyalty. You don’t have to agree with everything he says and does, but you at least don’t go behind his back and work with the people who hate him, to get him outta there. That's kinda wild to do. So Dame isn't perfect, but I've never heard one story about him turning on people or backstabbing them. That's not who he is.
How long was jay supposed to stay with dame

dont you think at some point jay wanted to do what he wanted at some point?


bill gates and paul allen dont have these problems :dahell:
 
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