hov would've found his waytell me how jay makes it in rap otherwise
no label wanted to sign him and he was tryin since the 80s lmao he was already in his late 20s.
Dame took a chance on him, because dame pretty much takes a chance on everyone when they come with an idea.
and that "make another hov" narrative is da dumbest shyt ever lol he doesnt need to make someone else post jay to validate everything he did lmao
and we all saw how dame barked on executives ON BEHALF of jay, so ofcourse they wouldnt fukk with him when they no longer needed to.
And he was at the video shoot and didn't step to the nikka. Ol "Nah, I'mma really show R Kelly by dancin all in the video but he better not stand next to me while I'm doin it" ass niga.
So why did he stay with the company and man that did a joint album with himThey ran up on Kelly later at MSG. That's when the cops came and shut the whole show down.
Nah, the video was shot a year before Dame was even with Aaliyah. He didn't like Kelly from way before that. Wanted nothing to do with dude. Once he got with Aaliyah and she told him about all that sh*t from back in the day. That's when Dame and his people ran up on him the next time they saw him. One of their guys got arrested and pleaded guilty to also pepper-spraying Kelly that night. That ended the whole tour.
MoneySo why did he stay with the company and man that did a joint album with him![]()
hov would've found his way
It wasn't a "powerhouse" by any acceptable definition of the word or context. He had some minor success running an indie label/art house and it imploded when everyone realized he was a snake. None of those albums sold particular well, none of the art shows did particular well either. But there was definitely some potential there if they had managed to secure financing from a major label.
Ultimately this is the problem with Dame. Since the Roc breakup he has what, at least ten ventures or businesses he has launched? DD172 was the only legitimate, non-embarrassing one (although the end was certainly embarrassing). The rest were half assed, street corner hustler ideas that made no sense in the grand scheme of things. Selling motor oil? Creating your own personal Netflix? A cooking show?
He's talking about out growing people yet this man on record saying he doesn't save money because whenever he gets some, he spends it on a new business. He's on record clowning stocks. He's a loser who would rather play childish games than grow the fukk up. All while his former partners make obscene amounts of money lol. Time to admit he's a loser.
nikka, what typa alternate universe did you get this shyt from![]()
Shoutout to @Awesome Wells on giving us insight on some things behind the scenes that we may not have been privy too before
Jay was tired of dame. Those guys couldn’t get jay to do anything without him having those thought’s already.
Jay offers to leave everything to dame and Biggs, he just wanted RD masters and would move on. Dame told him he can leave with nothing.
Doing this while jay is holding all the cards was crazy.
Jay got the president of def jam cause he had def jam stuck between a roc and hard place. He had never cashed any of his royalty checks and when he left roc he went to cash them in and def jam said they would go bankrupt if he did. So they agreed to give full rights to his masters and president of def jam.
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This is very very true