Dame Dash ordered to sell Roc-A-Fella records shares

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nikka all Dame DOES is beg for money and favors in every interview these days lmao

nikka always on some “Remember when I helped this person” or “Remember when I put on that person” or “Why won’t this person whose hand I shook 25 years ago repost my book on IG”. Always begging, always making himself out to be simultaneously a King Maker who everyone should bow down to and a victim who everyone should be enticed to help. Its pathetic.


When a man is down, truly down and out, the measure of him will be weighed by how many people actually will help or assist him without being goaded into it. Nobody in Dame’s past is helping him because he’s an a$$hole with illusions of grandeur based off a role he played in launching a record label 30 years ago. He stole from Jay and Biggs. He stole from other artists. He stole from the movie directors who sued him, WON, and placed him in the predicament he’s in now. He’s not a solid individual, he’s just a nikka with a loud mouth. Just like how Suge today is just a nikka with a loud mouth. Both of them are exactly where they belong and nobody should feel any responsibility whatsoever to help them because they didn’t take the proper steps to help themselves.

Yeah, if you're just some random nobody online reading articles and watching YT videos, I'm sure that's how it looks.

But again, no artist that’s ever been on Roc has ever had any issues with Dame stealing from them or giving them a bad deal. Even Beans tried to say that and later said it wasn’t true. No one that worked in that office has ever said that Dame jerked them or did them dirty in any form of business. Even with this case, he didn’t lose the judgment because he stole. He lost it because of defamation and copyright infringement.

So yeah, it’s very easy to say whatever when you’re on a forum behind a made-up name and you’ve never met or been around any of these people. But from day one, all Dame has done is back everyone, financially and helped people feed their families. This is how you’re supposed to take care of your people. And if you do that, loyalty is a bare minimum.

Dude was literally paying for people’s tuition at the office, out of his own pocket. He set up a whole college fund for anyone that wanted to go to school and work at the office part-time. He was paying people’s rent, and all kinds of sh*t. Not as loans, but just to make sure people were good. Biggs got wrapped up, and we were all uptown on 41st daily just cooling, and Dame was the one coming through with Biggs on the phone thanking him for taking care of his family while he was inside.

Spitta, Mos Def and Ski all had cribs that Dame got them so they could be in NYC and work on music at his studio for free. He did the same sh*t for Lee Daniels for his movie, and dude tried to run off with Dame’s two million. All this dude does is try to put his money into helping other people and launch his own companies. I’ve seen him do that endlessly since I was a teenager. Mad people have taken from dude and turned their back on him. Even with Cam. He said he had an album out and mad features and couldn't even get a dollar because he was broke until Dame came and fought for him at his label and gave him a deal that changed his life. My own career in music is due to Dame vouching for me everywhere.

So nah, true heads who were there know that only idiots are buying the narrative that the Lyor’s and the other "non-black" people up at the labels have been trying to spin. But mad of the people he’s been helping since forever know that dude has always tried to look out for his own people. We’re not gonna try to make it fashionable to throw solid black businessmen under the bus, for entertainment. People are too comfortable speaking on sh*t they weren’t there for.
 

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Yeah, if you're just some random nobody online reading articles and watching YT videos, I'm sure that's how it looks.

But again, no artist that’s ever been on Roc has ever had any issues with Dame stealing from them or giving them a bad deal. Even Beans tried to say that and later said it wasn’t true. No one that worked in that office has ever said that Dame jerked them or did them dirty in any form of business. Even with this case, he didn’t lose the judgment because he stole. He lost it because of defamation and copyright infringement.
When did Beans ever publicly say it wasnt true?
 

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When did Beans ever publicly say it wasnt true?

He’s said it mad times. He also said that he can’t do what other people did to Dame by jumping ship on him because Dame held him down when he was locked up. He said he understands that people have families, but he was choosing not to do to Dame what other people did. This was the same time that he said he’s never seen Jay on an “off-day”, but only when they were working on music, but he always chilled with Dame as just friends.

Few years ago, when he was with Ye and Dame on the movie set, he said people lied and said he had beef with Dame over money and it wasn’t true. And probably like a year ago, he said Dame is like Malcolm X because he’s always taken care of all of his artists. Freeway was on Dame’s podcast saying the same, and saying Beans was right about Dame always being so loyal. No artist or worker on Roc that wasn’t currently employed by Hov has ever said otherwise about Dame. Everyone that’s been around dude in real life, knows how solid he’s always been to his people.
 

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He’s said it mad times. He also said that he can’t do what other people did to Dame by jumping ship on him because Dame held him down when he was locked up. He said he understands that people have families, but he was choosing not to do to Dame what other people did. This was the same time that he said he’s never seen Jay on an “off-day”, but only when they were working on music, but he always chilled with Dame as just friends.

Few years ago, when he was with Ye and Dame on the movie set, he said people lied and said he had beef with Dame over money and it wasn’t true. And probably like a year ago, he said Dame is like Malcolm X because he’s always taken care of all of his artists. Freeway was on Dame’s podcast saying the same, and saying Beans was right about Dame always being so loyal. No artist or worker on Roc that wasn’t currently employed by Hov has ever said otherwise about Dame. Everyone that’s been around dude in real life, knows how solid he’s always been to his people.
Link me where. I googled and nothing comes up excpet when he said Dame owes him money. The only thing taht came up about no one owing money is with yeezy.

I have never seen Beans publicly say Dame doesnt owe him money, and if he said he never said that, he's lying:

“I had 20% of State Property Clothing. It was me, Jay, Dame, and the two other Russians that had the Rocawear, owned State Property,” Beans explained during the radio interview. “…even on the clothing line… the same reason why you and Dame broke up–Jay-Z–because he was taking all the money from Rocawear and putting it into all his other lil companies. He did the same thing to State Property.”

 

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Link me where. I googled and nothing comes up excpet when he said Dame owes him money. The only thing taht came up about no one owing money is with yeezy.

I have never seen Beans publicly say Dame doesnt owe him money, and if he said he never said that, he's lying:

“I had 20% of State Property Clothing. It was me, Jay, Dame, and the two other Russians that had the Rocawear, owned State Property,” Beans explained during the radio interview. “…even on the clothing line… the same reason why you and Dame broke up–Jay-Z–because he was taking all the money from Rocawear and putting it into all his other lil companies. He did the same thing to State Property.”


The article you posted is 15 years old. Google exactly what I posted. You should be able to find it.

Beans saying Dame is like the "Malcolm X of Hip Hop" and how he takes care of his artists, was probably as recent as last year.
 

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The article you posted is 15 years old. Google exactly what I posted. You should be able to find it.

Beans saying Dame is like the "Malcolm X of Hip Hop" and how he takes care of his artists, was probably as recent as last year.
Yes and all the 11 million he said he was owed was from that era. He said it's no point in suing, because Dame was in bankruptcy, and he would spend more in lawyers than what he would get.

The malcolm x shyt is irrelevant. He wasnt talking about his money, and getting shot changed Beans. Years later it is what it is, but no one put words in Beans mouth about Dame and money
 

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Yes and all the 11 million is said he was owed was from that era. He said it's no point in suing, because Dame was in bankruptcy, and he would spend more in lawyers than what he would get.

The malcolm x shyt is irrelevant. He wasnt talking about his money, and getting shot changed Beans. Years later it is what it is, but no one put words in Beans mouth about Dame and money

I honestly don’t understand half of what you wrote there, lol.

But yeah, Beans has had nothing but praise for Dame for over the past decade plus, when asked about him. All the talk has been about loyalty, and how Dame has always looked out for him and how he's not beefing with him over money and never did. He's also gotten into how other people betrayed Dame for money, but he chose not to. He's said that in mad interviews, which are all mad easy to find. So his stance on Dame, and Freeway's stance on Dame and Cam's have always been the same. They've been cool forever. Family even. He was just with him and Kanye talking about loyalty and people spreading lies. So we're not gonna ignore that and just make up sh*t about dude just because. It's corny.
 

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I remember Jay saying one time that every nikka that was ever mad at him was mad at him for what he didn't do for somebody, never about him takin something from somebody. Always felt that was a subliminal that nikkas was mad at the wrong person.

Bottom line is that Dame moved in an illogical manner if the aim was to do good business. Number one most important thing in business is nurturing relationships. Dame is/seems horrible at that.
 

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I remember Jay saying one time that every nikka that was ever mad at him was mad at him for what he didn't do for somebody, never about him takin something from somebody. Always felt that was a subliminal that nikkas was mad at the wrong person.

Bottom line is that Dame moved in an illogical manner if the aim was to do good business. Number one most important thing in business is nurturing relationships. Dame is/seems horrible at that.
Yeah it was in XXL

“People are mad at me not for what I did for them they get mad at me for what I didn’t do for them”


That’s what it’s all about


Dame had this one line with math Hoffa ot was for a movie premiere that one with Kevin bacon

He wanted jay to walk the red carpet Jay said nah


Dame said “damn you never help”


So Jay never does nothing to help you ever?
 

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Yeah, if you're just some random nobody online reading articles and watching YT videos, I'm sure that's how it looks.

But again, no artist that’s ever been on Roc has ever had any issues with Dame stealing from them or giving them a bad deal. Even Beans tried to say that and later said it wasn’t true. No one that worked in that office has ever said that Dame jerked them or did them dirty in any form of business. Even with this case, he didn’t lose the judgment because he stole. He lost it because of defamation and copyright infringement.

So yeah, it’s very easy to say whatever when you’re on a forum behind a made-up name and you’ve never met or been around any of these people. But from day one, all Dame has done is back everyone, financially and helped people feed their families. This is how you’re supposed to take care of your people. And if you do that, loyalty is a bare minimum.

Dude was literally paying for people’s tuition at the office, out of his own pocket. He set up a whole college fund for anyone that wanted to go to school and work at the office part-time. He was paying people’s rent, and all kinds of sh*t. Not as loans, but just to make sure people were good. Biggs got wrapped up, and we were all uptown on 41st daily just cooling, and Dame was the one coming through with Biggs on the phone thanking him for taking care of his family while he was inside.

Spitta, Mos Def and Ski all had cribs that Dame got them so they could be in NYC and work on music at his studio for free. He did the same sh*t for Lee Daniels for his movie, and dude tried to run off with Dame’s two million. All this dude does is try to put his money into helping other people and launch his own companies. I’ve seen him do that endlessly since I was a teenager. Mad people have taken from dude and turned their back on him. Even with Cam. He said he had an album out and mad features and couldn't even get a dollar because he was broke until Dame came and fought for him at his label and gave him a deal that changed his life. My own career in music is due to Dame vouching for me everywhere.

So nah, true heads who were there know that only idiots are buying the narrative that the Lyor’s and the other "non-black" people up at the labels have been trying to spin. But mad of the people he’s been helping since forever know that dude has always tried to look out for his own people. We’re not gonna try to make it fashionable to throw solid black businessmen under the bus, for entertainment. People are too comfortable speaking on sh*t they weren’t there for.
IDK bro. Seems like Dame blew his money on poor investments. You not suppose to take care of everybody. You suppose to put them in position to take care of themselves and that doesn't involve spending your money all the time.

The hardest truth a man has to learn is no one owes you anything. It doesn't matter what you did for them. If you are doing things for anyone and expect them to return the favor, you will always be disappointed eventually.

Solid business is solid business. From your post, Dame made a lot of risky business decisions.

With that said, I don't doubt he looked out for a lot of people and those people are long gone. It sucks but it's the oldest story in the book.
 

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When did Beans ever publicly say it wasnt true?
This dude is Boogie Dash, he just keeps on making up shyt without posting any links or anything :mjlol:

“20 people that worked at the roc hated Jay and came back cause shyt got hard” :mjgrin:

Ask dude to give you the LinkedIn of just one person that quit and came back, he’ll get ghost. But he knows 20:unimpressed:
 

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Yeah, if you're just some random nobody online reading articles and watching YT videos, I'm sure that's how it looks.

But again, no artist that’s ever been on Roc has ever had any issues with Dame stealing from them or giving them a bad deal. Even Beans tried to say that and later said it wasn’t true. No one that worked in that office has ever said that Dame jerked them or did them dirty in any form of business. Even with this case, he didn’t lose the judgment because he stole. He lost it because of defamation and copyright infringement.

So yeah, it’s very easy to say whatever when you’re on a forum behind a made-up name and you’ve never met or been around any of these people. But from day one, all Dame has done is back everyone, financially and helped people feed their families. This is how you’re supposed to take care of your people. And if you do that, loyalty is a bare minimum.

Dude was literally paying for people’s tuition at the office, out of his own pocket. He set up a whole college fund for anyone that wanted to go to school and work at the office part-time. He was paying people’s rent, and all kinds of sh*t. Not as loans, but just to make sure people were good. Biggs got wrapped up, and we were all uptown on 41st daily just cooling, and Dame was the one coming through with Biggs on the phone thanking him for taking care of his family while he was inside.

Spitta, Mos Def and Ski all had cribs that Dame got them so they could be in NYC and work on music at his studio for free. He did the same sh*t for Lee Daniels for his movie, and dude tried to run off with Dame’s two million. All this dude does is try to put his money into helping other people and launch his own companies. I’ve seen him do that endlessly since I was a teenager. Mad people have taken from dude and turned their back on him. Even with Cam. He said he had an album out and mad features and couldn't even get a dollar because he was broke until Dame came and fought for him at his label and gave him a deal that changed his life. My own career in music is due to Dame vouching for me everywhere.

So nah, true heads who were there know that only idiots are buying the narrative that the Lyor’s and the other "non-black" people up at the labels have been trying to spin. But mad of the people he’s been helping since forever know that dude has always tried to look out for his own people. We’re not gonna try to make it fashionable to throw solid black businessmen under the bus, for entertainment. People are too comfortable speaking on sh*t they weren’t there for.



:wow:
 

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This dude is Boogie Dash, he just keeps on making up shyt without posting any links or anything :mjlol:

“20 people that worked at the roc hated Jay and came back cause shyt got hard” :mjgrin:

Ask dude to give you the LinkedIn of just one person that quit and came back, he’ll get ghost. But he knows 20:unimpressed:
Not bad as that one nas stan that worked for Roc nation and said he cleaned Jay Z office lol
 

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IDK bro. Seems like Dame blew his money on poor investments. You not suppose to take care of everybody. You suppose to put them in position to take care of themselves and that doesn't involve spending your money all the time.

The hardest truth a man has to learn is no one owes you anything. It doesn't matter what you did for them. If you are doing things for anyone and expect them to return the favor, you will always be disappointed eventually.

Solid business is solid business. From your post, Dame made a lot of risky business decisions.

With that said, I don't doubt he looked out for a lot of people and those people are long gone. It sucks but it's the oldest story in the book.

Truth.

He definitely lost a lot of bread on bad investments. DD172 was one of them. He was trying to set up art galleries that doubled as recording studios and had apartments in the same building. That's where Mos Def and Spitta were living for a minute. You're right that you're not supposed to take care of everybody, but that's just how dude is. You see those old stories Cam used to tell about Dame going and buying everyone food and then making sure they had money and something to eat when they were teenagers. Some people are just like that.

I think Dame is hurt that he's done a lot for people that haven't showed him the same love, in return. Which is what Beans was pointing out. He said he never wants Dame to feel that way about him. But what you said was on point though. He lives by a code that few people do, so expecting people to do for you the way you did for them, is mad rare these days. Especially in the music business.

Just saw dude a few months ago in the city, and he had a lot of the dudes he was rolling with during his Best Out days, pre Roc, with him. Same cats that he was with before music. They've been with dude for like 35+ years. So I think he holds everyone to the same standard that he holds his guys from around the way. You just can't do that in this business. Because like you said, you'll be disappointed every time.
 
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