damn this gen sucks.

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I think the problem is too many gamers were used to a consistent tempo of massive AAA games...Think Zelda, God of War, Halo ,etc.


Look at how many of the games highlighted are smaller indie games..Great to you and I but they're not really marquee events..hell they've got Final Fantasy Tactics on here like this Ivalice Collection isn't it's third re-release.

I don't this gen is trash or it sucks or anything, but the library of huge AAA games is objectively smaller than any previous generation, and that comes down to increased dev times+cost. Not getting around it.
 

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I think the problem is too many gamers were used to a consistent tempo of massive AAA games...Think Zelda, God of War, Halo ,etc.


Look at how many of the games highlighted are smaller indie games..Great to you and I but they're not really marquee events..hell they've got Final Fantasy Tactics on here like this Ivalice Collection isn't it's third re-release.

I don't this gen is trash or it sucks or anything, but the library of huge AAA games is objectively smaller than any previous generation, and that comes down to increased dev times+cost. Not getting around it.

Well yeah, games take longer to make but even still…. You got a new Silent Hill game. Ghost of Yotei, Monster Hunter, a new Doom, Borderlands, Kojima, a big nintendo game, Mario Kart, Assassins Creed, a new Ninja Gaiden, etc.

How is that any different than any other generation? Thats a pretty decent year in AAA gaming, whats really missing?
 
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There are a bunch of AAA games this gen and now with smaller scale games thriving there is a bunch of variety

The only part of this gen that's terrible is the amount of games that don't use the technology of the consoles gameplay wise.

Almost all of that is because of cross gen.

The talk is always about graphics and not enough talk about games with gameplay being the same as the previous gen with prettier graphics.

That's why I am counting on ps studios because they are the only studios that are going to use the technology besides 3rd party developers that push the ps5 as the base console.
 
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Well yeah, games take longer to make but even still…. You got a new Silent Hill game. Ghost of Yotei, Monster Hunter, a new Doom, Borderlands, Kojima, a big nintendo game, Mario Kart, Assassins Creed, a new Ninja Gaiden, etc.

How is that any different than any other generation? Thats a pretty decent year in AAA gaming, whats really missing?
Well, we're 5 years into this gen. Let's look 5 years into the PS4/Xbox One generation, which was 2018. We had:

God of War
Red Dead 2
Smash Ultimate
Forza 4
Bayonetta 2
Monster Hunter World
Spider-Man
Far Cry 5
Assassins Creed Odyssey
Dragonball FighterZ

That's just a more stacked lineup with more of AAA luster, pound-for-pound.
 

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Well, we're 5 years into this gen. Let's look 5 years into the PS4/Xbox One generation, which was 2018. We had:

God of War
Red Dead 2
Smash Ultimate
Forza 4
Bayonetta 2
Monster Hunter World
Spider-Man
Far Cry 5
Assassins Creed Odyssey
Dragonball FighterZ

That's just a more stacked lineup with more of AAA luster, pound-for-pound.

  • Monster hunter wilds
  • Spider-Man 2
  • God of War Ragnarok
  • Bayonetta 3
  • Assassins Creed Shadows and Valhalla
  • Tekken 8
  • Street Fighter 6
  • Elden Ring
  • Armored Core 6
  • Horizon FW
  • Resident Evil Village/4 Remake
  • Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
  • Final Fantasy 16
  • Dragons Dogma 2
  • Black Myth
  • Warhammer Space Marine 2
  • Metaphor
  • Alan wake 2
  • Helldivers 2
  • Baldur’s Gate 3
  • Diablo IV
  • Jedi Survivor
  • Cyberpunk 2077
  • Mortal Kombat
  • Etc. etc.
Like what are we doing here lol…i could list 20 more AAA games off the top of the head that rival last gen
 
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I think the problem is too many gamers were used to a consistent tempo of massive AAA games...Think Zelda, God of War, Halo ,etc.


Look at how many of the games highlighted are smaller indie games..Great to you and I but they're not really marquee events..hell they've got Final Fantasy Tactics on here like this Ivalice Collection isn't it's third re-release.

I don't this gen is trash or it sucks or anything, but the library of huge AAA games is objectively smaller than any previous generation, and that comes down to increased dev times+cost. Not getting around it.
Been trying to find the words but this nailed it.

I tend to sink lots of hours in "big name" games and only get into the smaller/indie games when I'm bored or need a change of pace. Not as many must have Day 1 options compared to previous years, but the reasons why make sense ($$$$$)
 

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  • Monster hunter wilds
  • Spider-Man 2
  • God of War Ragnarok
  • Bayonetta 3
  • Assassins Creed Shadows and Valhalla
  • Tekken 8
  • Street Fighter 6
  • Elden Ring
  • Armored Core 6
  • Horizon FW
  • Resident Evil Village/4 Remake
  • Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
  • Final Fantasy 16
  • Dragons Dogma 2
  • Black Myth
  • Warhammer Space Marine 2
  • Metaphor
  • Alan wake 2
  • Helldivers 2
  • Baldur’s Gate 3
  • Diablo IV
  • Jedi Survivor
  • Cyberpunk 2077
  • Mortal Kombat
  • Etc. etc.
Like what are we doing here lol…i could list 20 more AAA games off the top of the head that rival last gen
I was strictly comparing 2018 vs 2025 releases; both years were 5 years into a respective console gen. You’re moving the goal post.

If we really want a table comparing the PS4/XOne/Switch libraries to the PS5/XSX/Switch 2 libraries, you know the last generation is going to have the more robust catalogue… and with these extremely long development times established as the new norm that’s not going to change.
 

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I was strictly comparing 2018 vs 2025 releases; both years were 5 years into a respective console gen. You’re moving the goal post.

If we really want a table comparing the PS4/XOne/Switch libraries to the PS5/XSX/Switch 2 libraries, you know the last generation is going to have the more robust catalogue… and with these extremely long development times established as the new norm that’s not going to change.

Idk I think it’s fine but there’s also way more high quality indie/AA games this genera that didn’t exist last gen. Stuff like expedition 33 would have gotten ignored
 

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This Gen has been fine if you just look at it as 8th Gen with the expansion pak.
Tbh at least the PS5 was backward compatible with PS4 games. PS5 was my first Sony console, and I've been having a good time with it. Backlog still feels endless. Imagine if PS4 or Xbox One was someone's first console. If one's first console was a PS4 or Xbox one it would feel rougher, imo.
 

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I think the problem is too many gamers were used to a consistent tempo of massive AAA games...Think Zelda, God of War, Halo ,etc.


Look at how many of the games highlighted are smaller indie games..Great to you and I but they're not really marquee events..hell they've got Final Fantasy Tactics on here like this Ivalice Collection isn't it's third re-release.

I don't this gen is trash or it sucks or anything, but the library of huge AAA games is objectively smaller than any previous generation, and that comes down to increased dev times+cost. Not getting around it.
Exactly. Most of the games i play many people have no idea they exist or would ever play them. I have never once felt that there is a lack of games because i do not only play COD, Madden, 2K, FIFA and a handful of other games.

My problem is that i have too much stuff to play and not enough time. Once you expand your horizons you will see many great games that are not considered "mainstream", but it does not help that a lot of them are on PC.
 

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I literally bought Lost Trash Aside, MGS: Delta and Shinobi day 1 and barely played any of them and now I'm about to get Yotei :snoop:
 
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