damn why are NBA players unclaiming rings now?

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The Last Dance Affect :ahh:
"We are not worthy!"

With TMAC on the Spurs I get it.....With Chuck on the Rockets - he's LYING, but I get it. Matt is just hype off watching The Last Dance. He was always a cog in the wheel...Just more clicks for the podcast.
 

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Some foolish shyt, basketball is a team sport and every cog in the wheel is important young or old

The culture in the NBA is mad weird to me, players are bigger than the teams. I think this is why so many fans get lost in the allure of polarizing players rather than enjoying the sport for what it is.

Exactly. Especially important for basketball where the bench plays an important role in giving starters opportunities to rest.
 

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To me in some cases it’s like when you hear for example George Washington didn’t want to be president something about refusing something makes people want to give it to you more

the TMAC on the Spurs shyt is so interesting because they kicked Stephen Jackson off the team among other things that cost them to lose that year

also the Matt Barnes thing was because the We Believe team because I believe at the time he was the last active player from that team and the team was moving to a new stadium. Sometimes things in sports like that sound contrived to me like dudes retiring then re signing to a old team to retire with them
 
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Bruh its the Jordan effect. The league, league media and marketing departments created the perfect player in Jordan and thats cool. But then they spend the next 20 years trying to recreate that and kills everyone who plays afterward. The entire game living in his shadow and cant escape it cause no matter who comes along they cant let the game move on without mentioning him.
Nobody can be great in their own time without being connected to him through comparisons, articles, trash ass nba media, game commentators.
In a sense the NBA killed themselves all they talk about is rings and playoffs and then wonder why nobody watches or cares about their regular season. Why after someone's favorite player retires they tune out.

If the NBA media moved on and pulled the game outta the shadow of 23 than it'd be a lot better.

I'm not sure it is the Jordan effect. He also got the same abuse for not having an nba title before he finally won it. This type of talk was in the nba way before Mike. People were even saying Wilt didnt win enough titles back then.
 
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The championship is destroying the culture and fun of basketball.

Too many narratives surrounding the impact of winning/not winning a ring. We have GREAT players who never won a ring (team achievement) but somehow gets down graded and surpassed by players who weren’t necessarily better.

Or the ol’, “ he didn’t win on his original team” and “he joined a super team” argument. Even the, “he wasn’t the leader of that team” , “he wasn’t in his prime”, or “but he wasn’t MVP”, argument.

Now we have players “not counting” rings because they didn’t win them the “right way”?
WTF is the right way to win a ring in a team sport competition? This ring argument is bullshyt and overblown, and rarely put in proper context.
I agree with this
It is amazing how much winning overrates certain players and underrates others
Look at Draymond Green :mjlol:
A glorified role player yet some people had him as a top 15 player during their championship run:mjlol:
In the end you have role players like Robert Horry, a role player who was always on the right team, right spot, at the right time, flexing on all time great talents like TMAC with his rings, as if he was a major contributing factor :mjlol:
Sometimes great players are on shyt teams
 

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shyt is getting stupid


They killing their product :francis:


If no player these days are as good or tough as the players before them


Whats the point in watching?:yeshrug:


Funny thing stack and Barnes are on their back in the day shyt too :francis:



Its jumping the shark :ehh:
 

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It's all about the rings

But not the way of and LeBron earned theirs

Those don't count either
 

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I mean even if he didn’t get hurt was he really expecting to make a big impact on their playoff run? Durant, Andre, and s dot were gonna get most of the minutes at the three during the playoffs.
 

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T-Mac was a bench warmer why would he claim a ring he didn't contribute to :francis:

Barnes was always a role player where is this inflated ego coming from nobody cares if you claim your ring or not :shaq2:

Barkley is lying. In '99 he was still a 16/12/5 guy he went to Houston and teamed up with Scottie and Olajuwon specifically to win. A lot of people say those guys were old but the league was old then, the prior Finals had a 35 year old Jordan and Malone going at it. That was Barkley's chance and it would be a major resume booster for him.
 

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I agree with this
It is amazing how much winning overrates certain players and underrates others
Look at Draymond Green :mjlol:
A glorified role player yet some people had him as a top 15 player during their championship run:mjlol:
In the end you have role players like Robert Horry, a role player who was always on the right team, right spot, at the right time, flexing on all time great talents like TMAC with his rings, as if he was a major contributing factor :mjlol:
Sometimes great players are on shyt teams
Draymond was the best player for GS in the '16 Finals :ufdup:

Horry averaged 18 points, 10 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals and 2.3 blocks and shot 38% from 3 in the '95 Finals :ufdup:
 
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