Dan Dakich thoughts on LeBron resting.

[FTBS]

Haven't we all agreed that people tend to rest on the back end of back to backs or 4 games in 5 nights? It's predictable as fukk, so just make it official to protect fans. Again, not saying should be "required" but would be appreciated just say "hey if you guys buy tickets for these games, there's a risk LeBron won't play even if healthy so buy at your own risk"

And yeah injury is another story altogether. If LeBron gets legit hurt, then fine. Can happen to anyone in any sport. But you're putting your heads in the sand if you don't think the NBA is a star-driven league whose ticket prices are driven by those stars being on the court.

Businesses provide products and that's how they earn their revenue. And if prices go up and down based on teams having certain players or not having certain players, they should come down if certain players CHOOSE not to play. Just like I damn sure ain't paying filet mignon prices when I order it off the menu and get served a NY strip because they're trying to save their best meat for other customers.

That's what it is now and anybody that doesn't get that has their head in the sand.

Why is injury different from that fan's perspective? You still didn't see him. You don't get your money, which is limited, back.

It's all choice here. Fans CHOOSE to pay those prices. Businesses look to get over however they can and if people willfully let them they don't stop. That Cavs/Pacers game was sold out before the season started. There was no way to lower the price the day of the game.

Once again comparing food to human performance .

 

[NYC Rebel]

So how far in advance are the Cavs supposed to let people know which games Bron will sit. A day after the schedule is released in August

Want them to announce all the games at once


Plus the Olympics.

I completely forgot about that!!

These dudes are idiots, breh.

And they flock together

 

[resurrection]

That's what it is now and anybody that doesn't get that has their head in the sand.

Right, then the prices need to come down. It's unethical in my opinion to charge LeBron prices when he won't play.

Why is injury different from that fan's perspective? You still didn't see him. You don't get your money, which is limited, back..

It's a disappointment, but at least it's not your team or player CHOOSING to not provide

It's all choice here. Fans CHOOSE to pay those prices. Businesses look to get over however they can and if people willfully let them they don't stop. That Cavs/Pacers game was sold out before the season started. There was no way to lower the price the day of the game.

Yeah they CHOOSE to pay the price to see LeBron. Not Kevin Love. And yes, business do look to get over, and my argument is that it is an unethical way to do business and they should look out for their customers. There should be something in my opinion. If that means the baseline Cavs tickets prices have to come down because you never know when LeBron will play, then fine. Just trying to look out for ordinary people here.

Once again comparing food to human performance .

You can put food, clothes, or anything else in the comparison. I just happen to like to spend my money on food so it's always the thing that comes to mind for me. But as a consumer of ANYTHING, you want what you asked for, and were charged for, do you not? It's one thing if it's beyond anyone's control, like an injury, but it's another when it's a willful decision to not provide what you've paid for. Just because we love our athletes and teams doesn't mean we should just shrug our shoulders and say "whatever I'm fine being fukked"

 

[jwinfield]

I completely forgot about that!!

These dudes are idiots, breh.

And they flock together

Dude played in the summer of 04, 06, 08 and 12.

 

[resurrection]

And Lebron didn't play in Rio

 

[Bilz]

That's all I'm saying breh

Just don't charge the fans LeBron prices for Kevin Love tickets. That's IT. It's not a stupid position to take. The logistics of how the league and the Cavs figure that out is not up to me, I'm just brainstorming talking about giving advance notice. If it's not that, then there's gotta be something. But people do not deserve to pay premiums for something they THINK they're getting, and they don't get it because someone chose not to provide it. That price should be affected, EVEN if the ticket is already bought. Or something. Again, I don't know how to implement, but there should be a protection of some way beyond the fan trying to get out a crystal ball and guess when LeBron will or will not play.

I don't get why advocating for the hard-working people who may have paid a lot of money for memories and experiences that will never come is such a problem. Are fans not people too? Or is LeBron the only human being who deserves empathy in this scenario?

The prices you are talking about are secondary market prices. The Cavs tickets were the same face value when they were a 60 win team and the next year when they were led by Mo Williams.

I don't know how you can convince a guy on Craigslist to give you a discount on tickets you bought a month ago because the game wasn't as intriguing as you were hoping for. You might as well ask for a refund anytime the team loses if we are going down that road.

 

[resurrection]

The prices you are talking about are secondary market prices. The Cavs tickets were the same face value when they were a 60 win team and the next year when they were led by Mo Williams.

I don't know how you can convince a guy on Craigslist to give you a discount on tickets you bought a month ago because the game wasn't as intriguing as you were hoping for. You might as well ask for a refund anytime the team loses if we are going down that road.

Nah I'm talking about prices on the team's site. I'm on the Mavs ticket site right now: Single-Game Tickets - Official Website of the Dallas Mavericks

Them Cavs tickets be costing $30+ more each than most of the other games thru Ticketmaster BECAUSE of LeBron

And of course if you go and a guy is hurt or your team loses, you're disappointed, but you were willfully provided the best product the team/league could put forward. When a guy doesn't play, that's not what's happening. It's different

 

[NYC Rebel]

Dude played in the summer of 04, 06, 08 and 12.

Yup

And Lebron didn't play in Rio

How does that change that he's logged the most professional basketball minutes we've ever seen from 31 year old player??

 

[resurrection]

Yup



How does that change that he's logged the most professional basketball minutes we've ever seen from 31 year old player??

I see you still think I'm trying to argue that LeBron is a machine and should never get tired. Cool

 

[Bilz]

Nah I'm talking about prices on the team's site. I'm on the Mavs ticket site right now: Single-Game Tickets - Official Website of the Dallas Mavericks

Them Cavs tickets be costing $30+ more each than most of the other games thru Ticketmaster BECAUSE of LeBron

That's because they identify those as marquee games. I had to pay extra at an Angels game because they were playing the Yankees even though they have no one special. Even if LeBron announced today that he was taking the next month off, the other teams would keep the tiered pricing the same during that time.

 

[FTBS]

Right, then the prices need to come down. It's unethical in my opinion to charge LeBron prices when he won't play.



It's a disappointment, but at least it's not your team or player CHOOSING to not provide


Yeah they CHOOSE to pay the price to see LeBron. Not Kevin Love. And yes, business do look to get over, and my argument is that it is an unethical way to do business and they should look out for their customers. There should be something in my opinion. If that means the baseline Cavs tickets prices have to come down because you never know when LeBron will play, then fine. Just trying to look out for ordinary people here.


You can put food, clothes, or anything else in the comparison. I just happen to like to spend my money on food so it's always the thing that comes to mind for me. But as a consumer of ANYTHING, you want what you asked for, and were charged for, do you not? It's one thing if it's beyond anyone's control, like an injury, but it's another when it's a willful decision to not provide what you've paid for. Just because we love our athletes and teams doesn't mean we should just shrug our shoulders and say "whatever I'm fine being fukked"

That's not on the players and coaches.

Does it make it better? Yes or no. If "yes", how so? I'm talking tangible reasons here because all I keep hearing about out is this tangible money that has gone to waste.

NBA doesn't give a fukk about ordinary people. No league does. No major corporation does. Ordinary people have to look out for themselves and stop bending over rather than constantly complaining about getting fukked.

No you can't, and that is the problem here. There are certain guarantees that can be made with inanimate objects that cannot be made with human beings. Certain considerations exist for living people that don't exist for dead animals.

 

[resurrection]

That's because they identify those as marquee games. I had to pay extra at an Angels game because they were playing the Yankees even though they have no one special. Even if LeBron announced today that he was taking the next month off, the other teams would keep the tiered pricing the same during that time.

Yeah and the NBA is unique in that a game, especially with the Cavs, is marquee because of LeBron. It ain't a marquee game without him. And I'd argue that that would be unethical to keep that pricing if he was taking off, and people would be mindless to pay it. In fact, they wouldn't

 

[resurrection]

That's not on the players and coaches.

Does it make it better? Yes or no. If "yes", how so? I'm talking tangible reasons here because all I keep hearing about out is this tangible money that has gone to waste.

NBA doesn't give a fukk about ordinary people. No league does. No major corporation does. Ordinary people have to look out for themselves and stop bending over rather than constantly complaining about getting fukked.

No you can't, and that is the problem here. There are certain guarantees that can be made with inanimate objects that cannot be made with human beings. Certain considerations exist for living people that don't exist for dead animals.

Whoever it's "on" doesn't matter to me. If it's the league, then ok the league should fix it. But you're right, no one gives a fukk about ordinary people and that saddens me

 

[Higher Tech]

Why not rest?

3 things are still certain even if he sits 4 games a month

1. Top 4 in the East
2. HCA
3. They still won't go undefeated.

Let that man rest if he desires it.

 

[Higher Tech]

and who the fukk is Dan Dakich?