Dan orlovsky and Rex Ryan not keeping the same energy with Josh allen

[BrehWyatt]

When me and you (bums) were lining up at WR for the ravens nobody gave Lamar a pass.

The issue is people will always find a way to excuse Allen.

Allen is going to get these excuses because for the most part, he has always gone gangbusters in the postseason. In Lamar's case, Saturday was the first time he ever had a good game in the postseason. Somebody posted the stats in here earlier that prove it.

It's easy to give Josh Allen a pass if you watch him completely light up an opponent only for Mahomes to light Allen's defense right back up at the end.

 

[ghostwriterx]

The point is that when we point out that Mahomes WRs were trash that was the response. I'm not trying to hear folks cry about Diggs not being as good as Kelce. If Josh Allen is that dude then he needs to find a way to get it done. Simple as that

Well that's obviously dumb, you shouldn't argue with dumb people. Just ignore them instead of reducing yourself to their level of stupidity.

 

[TheEgyptianConniption]

He had a great season but didn't get it done when it matters once again. Getting kind of old but not like you're gonna upgrade there. I'd like to see him with a more offensive minded head coach personally but they're too scared to move on from McDermott for some reason. Guess they are cool with winning the division every year but that is such a low bar for success

 

[rlg]

Josh Allen is the point guard of the offense who's decision making effects the team and the outcome of the game the most. It's like a pg passing to a 30% shooter for three when all you need is two. When at the same time you have Gianna's up under the rim for two.

If Josh Allen takes that underneath throw to diggs then not only does he have a shot of making the first down, he gets his kicker who has been struggling all season closer. If diggs doesn't get the first down you still have the option to QB sneak on 4th down which you probably have a 95% chance of making.

At that point you put more pressure on the chiefs to get a stop. You can eat up more clock and you can get your kicker even closer and take some shots in the end zone... Josh Allen lost the game.

 

[DropTopDoc]

He needed to move before the hit. It's not like he got blindsided. The pressure was right in front of him but he didn't react.

Maybe I've been watching too many QB School videos but Stroud and Lamar have been great at making subtle moves with their feet and body to quickly get throws off. Mahomes has consistently thrown strikes off platform.

You're right, I don't think Josh has that aspect to his game.

Think about young Big Ben that mf wasn’t shifty in the pocket, he was known for standing in there and tossing that Bih

 

[BrehWyatt]

He had a great season but didn't get it done when it matters once again. Getting kind of old but not like you're gonna upgrade there. I'd like to see him with a more offensive minded head coach personally but they're too scared to move on from McDermott for some reason. Guess they are cool with winning the division every year but that is such a low bar for success

They need to start leaning on the rushing attack, diversifying the way they employ it, and not shy away from it when the yards get tougher to come by. Buffalo's second half surge was in large part due to a willingness to use something besides a pass by Josh Allen to win games.

If the idea was to milk the entire clock and ultimately cash out on a score, then to me that means this is 4 down territory the rest of the way and Bass ain't coming on the field.

The playcalling should have reflected that (or Josh should have audibled into that) and it didn't once the Bills crossed midfield. Stick with quick hitters/short reads to manage down and distance, and call plays where if it's not there immediately, Josh -- who punished KC on the ground, TBH -- can skedaddle for 4-6 yards.

 

[DropTopDoc]

He had a great season but didn't get it done when it matters once again. Getting kind of old but not like you're gonna upgrade there. I'd like to see him with a more offensive minded head coach personally but they're too scared to move on from McDermott for some reason. Guess they are cool with winning the division every year but that is such a low bar for success

Josh Allen is the point guard of the offense who's decision making effects the team and the outcome of the game the most. It's like a pg passing to a 30% shooter for three when all you need is two. When at the same time you have Gianna's up under the rim for two.

If Josh Allen takes that underneath throw to diggs then not only does he have a shot of making the first down, he gets his kicker who has been struggling all season closer. If diggs doesn't get the first down you still have the option to QB sneak on 4th down which you probably have a 95% chance of making.

At that point you put more pressure on the chiefs to get a stop. You can eat up more clock and you can get your kicker even closer and take some shots in the end zone... Josh Allen lost the game.

We do this thing where we heap things on the qb, had he hit the deep post he’s a hero, it was by an eyelash in Buffalo in the winter, and they still had a chance to tie it up, no one says, maybe the defense doesn’t give up a TD, maybe the guy paid to make kicks makes a kick, Allen can get his blame but y’all want to all or nothing analyze him and it’s not one for one

 

[ghostwriterx]

I remember this game, and all three turnovers weren't on Lamar. At least two of them were dropped passes that led to interceptions. Those turnovers were momentum killers, not to mention on the other end, Derrick Henry couldn't be stopped.

The first one was a poor throw, Andrews had his hands on it, but tough to call this a drop.


2nd was a bad throw/decision


fumble was bad too


Henry was a beast that game.

 

[Negro Caesar]

Horrible take by Ryan Clark, but he often has some horrible takes.

Josh Allen is one of the most defended and criticized QB's in the NFL. Anyone who says he isn't arguably the most criticized QB is just flat out wrong. He makes some really dumb plays sometimes, but also makes plays no other QB will make.

There is no way anyone with a functioning brain could have watched that game last night and come away thinking that it was Josh Allen's fault they lost. The sports discourse nowadays is just flat out lazy, and people just looking at the end result, and not how the game actually went.

u didn’t watch the video? RC said Josh Allen isn’t the reason they lost, but if he was a great he would find a way to win

 

[CHICAGO]

If Josh Allen takes that underneath throw to diggs then not only does he have a shot of making the first down, he gets his kicker who has been struggling all season closer. If diggs doesn't get the first down you still have the option to QB sneak on 4th down which you probably have a 95% chance of making.
.

HE MISSED DIGGS ON 2ND DOWN
NOT 3RD DOWN WHICH MAKES
IT EVEN WORSE.






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[ghostwriterx]

u didn’t watch the video? RC said Josh Allen isn’t the reason they lost, but if he was a great he would find a way to win

That's still silly. A QB can be great and still lose, it's not tennis.

 

[CHICAGO]

We do this thing where we heap things on the qb, had he hit the deep post he’s a hero, it was by an eyelash in Buffalo in the winter, and they still had a chance to tie it up, no one says, maybe the defense doesn’t give up a TD, maybe the guy paid to make kicks makes a kick, Allen can get his blame but y’all want to all or nothing analyze him and it’s not one for one

NOPE.

IF HE HITS THAT TD
HE STILL LEFT 1:55 AND 2 TIMEOUTS
FOR MAHOMES TO COME
DOWN AND WIN THE GM
AS HE WATCHES HELPLESSLY FROM THE SIDELINES.
(KC PUNTED ONCE IN THE WHOLE GM)

IT WAS A TERRIBLE HERO BALL DECISION.

GET THE 1ST DOWN
AND FORCE KC TO BURN TIMEOUTS.






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[RubioTheCruel]

They need to start leaning on the rushing attack, diversifying the way they employ it, and not shy away from it when the yards get tougher to come by. Buffalo's second half surge was in large part due to a willingness to use something besides a pass by Josh Allen to win games.

If the idea was to milk the entire clock and ultimately cash out on a score, then to me that means this is 4 down territory the rest of the way and Bass ain't coming on the field.

The playcalling should have reflected that (or Josh should have audibled into that) and it didn't once the Bills crossed midfield. Stick with quick hitters/short reads to manage down and distance, and call plays where if it's not there immediately, Josh -- who punished KC on the ground, TBH -- can skedaddle for 4-6 yards.

Bills had 37 mins time of possession so that was clearly the game plan, keep Mahomes on the bench and take the air out of the ball. I get that the Chiefs started to run blitz in the 4th quarter but that doesn't mean that you competely abandon the run - you also have a 6'5" 240 LB QB that has wheels, why not do some called QB runs? That whole 4th quarter playcalling was very curious.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Josh Allen is the point guard of the offense who's decision making effects the team and the outcome of the game the most. It's like a pg passing to a 30% shooter for three when all you need is two. When at the same time you have Gianna's up under the rim for two.

If Josh Allen takes that underneath throw to diggs then not only does he have a shot of making the first down, he gets his kicker who has been struggling all season closer. If diggs doesn't get the first down you still have the option to QB sneak on 4th down which you probably have a 95% chance of making.

At that point you put more pressure on the chiefs to get a stop. You can eat up more clock and you can get your kicker even closer and take some shots in the end zone... Josh Allen lost the game.

That was 2nd down where he didnt go to diggs and threw the bomb to the endzone. so even if diggs only gets 5 yards you still have 3rd down to get the first.

Edit: I see Chicago already pointed that it was 2nd down.

 

[BrehWyatt]

Bills had 37 mins time of possession so that was clearly the game plan, keep Mahomes on the bench and take the air out of the ball. I get that the Chiefs started to run blitz in the 4th quarter but that doesn't mean that you competely abandon the run - you also have a 6'5" 240 LB QB that has wheels, why not do some called QB runs? That whole 4th quarter playcalling was very curious.

They probably could have fukked the Chiefs' world up with zone reads or rollout QB sweeps off the playaction to offset that aggression.