Danny Ainge needs to be fired

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Dude pretty much has to grab Butler before the deadline is over or this is going to be an all time WOAT GM move...

The celtics are playing well and built to win within the next 4 years...a lottery pick is doing nothing for them...

He about to have to pay IT the max to...which is something i bet danny never had in his plans :mjlol:
 

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At least he ain't Billy King :mjcry:

Billy King traded an Unprotected 1st for Gerald Wallace

Billy King traded 3 Unprotected 1sts and 1 1st swap for Pierce and KG (we also traded Gerald Wallace in that, and he cost us a 1st so add another in basically)

Billy watching this at home like "shyt you can negotiate? You don't just have to take what the other team wants? Well damn, maybe next time :mjgrin:"
 

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I mean, I can understand why Ainge didn't take the bait. We saw with both the Bulls and the Knicks that getting an all-star or big name means shyt especially when you may lose depth or trade value to build depth.

Now if ANYTHING people should of side eyed SAM PRESTI for not even thinking about using the opportunity to get Boogie! Oh all the teams that's right in the thick of it and needed a dominant big man for that extra help is the Thunder and they had trading value.
 

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I mean, I can understand why Ainge didn't take the bait. We saw with both the Bulls and the Knicks that getting an all-star or big name means shyt especially when you may lose depth or trade value to build depth.

Now if ANYTHING people should of side eyed SAM PRESTI for not even thinking about using the opportunity to get Boogie! Oh all the teams that's right in the thick of it and needed a dominant big man for that extra help is the Thunder and they had trading value.
they really didn't breh.


Unless you REALLY wanted to trade Steven Adams
 
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The Celtics had the potential of having big 4, thomas, cousins, horford and butler or george, all in there primes.

As a knicks fan, I'm glad Ainge is an idiot

I'll never forgive Danny for this blunder. He better be working to get Butler AND PG13
 

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I don't think NO fleeced them, but they did underpay for ole boy. Never been a fan of his game, but I think he helps. It's not like this is Greg Monroe/Andre Drummond, they can both spread the floor, but damn he can be unpredictable at times.

I don't know how the trade talks panned out, but I have a hard time blaming any team if they didn't get him. From whati read from different blogs earlier in the season, it came off as if it was going to take a lot to trade for him. This seems like such an emotional, random move by Sacramento.

Comparing Boogie with them two:patrice:

Spread the floor with Andre Drummond and Greg Monroe brehs:skip:

Greg Monroe hasn't shoot a 3 his whole career and Andre Drummond only got some buzzer beating bank shot 3 in his career

While Boogie averaging 2 3-pointers a game on 35% shooting
 
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Boston got a good thing going already. Ainge, from having to dismantle the big 3 plus Rondo to where they at now.....I trust him more than ya'll fantasy league Coli GM 's.
Actually, Ainge initially fukked up on dismantling the Big Three + Rondo too late. I posted this back in 2014 on how he should've made a trade(s) in 2012:
He's making up for lost ground after wasting a whole season by failing to recognize the big three's Championship window closed (in 2012) and capitalizing on their peak value.

With their defeat in the 11/12 Eastern Conference Finals (second consecutive post-season defeat against the Miami Heat), what's beef between Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo → Doc Rivers → Danny Ainge (which inevitably forced Allen to leave in the offseason), Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett both on the decline (showing they could no longer handle carrying a team between the two of them), ispo facto - that was the end of their Championship window (07-12).

Rajon Rondo's value was at its career-peak, and just like Pierce's and Garnett's would decline from there on out - the perfect opportunity to capitalize on what could have been fast-tracking a complete rebuild (saving them at least 2-3 seasons), with Allen's/Garnett's no-trade clauses as the only obstacle. Pierce/Garnett and most importantly Rondo could have netted Boston, a combination of the following through S&T or lottery picks (+ picks in future drafts):


'12 Draft: Anthony Davis, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Bradley Beal, Dion Waiters, Damien Lillard, Harrison Barnes, Terrence Ross, Andre Drummond.


'12 FA: Goran Dragic, Jamaal Crawford, Nicolas Batum, Ryan Anderson, Brook Lopez.


Following that: any lottery picks in the '13 and '14 Drafts and enough cap space for '13 and '14 FA.

Instead Ainge's imbued practice of empty loyalty wasted a whole season, already knowing their run was over, - watched the Celtics bow out in the first round, with KG/Pierce having their worst seasons since '07 and Rondo pushing his value into limbo - following his ACL injury. Only to trade KG/PP for three first round picks from the Nets: James Young (2014 pick), 2016 1st rounder and 2018 first rounder in the off-season.

Now that's a reasonable exchange, considering their value basically bottomed out, but they received the less favorable 2014 first-round pick, drafting a player whose max-projection is a 6th man/bench fill-out and two unprotected picks in 2016 and 2018. Waiting a further two seasons, which could turn out to be late first-rounders given Prokhorov/King could right Brooklyn's ship before those picks come into play or the fact that the East could be in the same dire state in 2016, they're still not bad enough to miss the playoffs.

Following that: Rondo's value now is basically Ricky Rubio with a invisible cloak that's rendered his flaws in purgatory to the basketball faux-cultured status, and if Ainge can't use that to his advantage to strong-arm a team into a top-heavy deal - he'll either lose Rondo for scraps or he'll eventually lose him for nothing, when he's a UFA.
 
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Comparing Boogie with them two:patrice:

Spread the floor with Andre Drummond and Greg Monroe brehs:skip:

Greg Monroe hasn't shoot a 3 his whole career and Andre Drummond only got some buzzer beating bank shot 3 in his career

While Boogie averaging 2 3-pointers a game on 35% shooting
Boogie got more made 3's than Buddy:mjlol:
 
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