Data Shows Punishing Reach of Racism: Black college grads have less wealth than white HS dropouts

[truth2you]

were 13% of the population and responsible for 50% of the murders.

That alone tells you whats going on in our community.

So, he proves you wrong with the nonsense you are dapping, tells you to prove him wrong, and you go into homicide rate?

And I prove you wrong with that, when looking at how you tried to use that statistic, so its clear to say you aren't black or at least a black american, and trying to shyt on black americans in a subtle way, but it doesn't work here, because we aren't the dumb asses you can pull the shyt on

Black people look out for the wolf in sheeps clothing. They may look like us, talk like us, but they are no different from the people who are against us. If he is saying nonsense in these posts on this site, imagine what he is doing to fuel the lies in real life, or on other sites! Its the propaganda lies that come first, that gives them reason to hurt you, and ignore your pain.

The fruit of a man will tell you what his true seed is, not the leaves on his tree or what he tells you

 

[jilla82]

All that sounds good, but its not dealing with reality. You put up those statistics with no background, so i take it you are just repeating what racists told you, because it sounds like a lot of murder happening, because it 50%, and we are only 13% of the population, but you left out we are also high in poverty, access to drugs, and can't just pass for white to bring the money back to the community which jews did. You also left out the high incarceration rates for small things, which also add to lack of employment, and some getting into the street culture which adds to the killings. You also left out many more things that add to some going the street route, and just made it to be blacks love the poverty culture. Are you fukking serious?

As far as chinese, and koreans, they already come here with money, or college degrees. If you look at the majority of them, they don't just come here with nothing, they are the elite of their group before coming here, so those were horrible comparisons.

Now, let's break it down!

There were 7,039 homicides committed by blacks, BUT there are over 46 million of us, and most of those homicides happened with poor people, and were most likely connected to drugs, and money. So the poverty culture you gave makes no sense, because if that was the case there should be MILLIONS of killings happening, or at least in the tens of thousands, being we have such a high poverty rate, but that is far from the case.

There were 5,854 homicides committed by whites, BUT there are about 246,660,710 of them in the us, so most of those homicieds most likely came from their poor when you look at they have a low poverty rate.

The reason homicide is lower for other groups like hispanics or Aisans, is because a lot don't have as easy access to guns as do blacks & white citizens, and face deportation if they do even small violent crimes.

When you look at the ages of you see the highest is between 20-29, which correlates to the years that a lot of black men are out of work! That's also the ages that the high incarceration happens(16-34). You don't see the connection?

Once you look at the numbers, and the look at poverty rates, where the shootings happen, it all starts making sense. It has nothing to do with poverty culture with blacks, you sound like a damn fool!

When I hear people throw out "they are 13% of the population, and commit 50% of the murder" I already know I'm dealing with a devil who is playing games to make us look bad or just an ignorant person who is trying to sound smart by repeating percentages with no understanding of what they are repeating! If you show the actual numbers no one would take those percentages serious, which is why you never hear anyone do it! Which makes me wonder what is your reason for doing it, since you claim you are black?

You are not helping the situation by spreading ignorance by believing bullshyt. Prove people wrong, come with a proper solution, and then speak, but doing what you are doing is straight foul and can be used to make blacks look like the system wants us to. You need to think before speaking or posting!

you didnt read what I said, because I addressed all this.

it seems like yall are more concerned with arguing w/ dumb white people on the internet than actually fixing shyt.

I dont pay attention to politics and social commentary, so my information just comes from things ive noticed in life and what I look up myself.

I really dont care about the opinion of some random white person on the internet that is sad and looking to make themselves feel better, and neither should you.

At the end of the day, what youre saying is partially true...but it doesnt change the fact that our culture is broke, and the everyday conversation of black people is backwards.

Im done with excuses, I just want action.

 

[Macallik86]

there are so many variables in studies like this.

Its pretty short sighted to say "its just race"...when black folks for the most part dont approach things the same way.

Were more likely to go into social services, and least likely to be small biz owners.

Im around black business owners and the like damn near everyday.

As a people we lack culture.

Look at black neighborhoods that were middle class 20 or 30 years ago...
...many of them have gone to complete shyt because the next generation didnt give a fukk.


We can keep saying race is the answer to everything...but that aint going to change your situation.

This idea that we lack culture is just not true. Culture is defined based on its participants, not outsiders. You can choose to identify with positive aspects of black culture or the negative aspects of black culture. Therefore even if our culture is represented poorly in mainstream America, that doesn't mean that you have to agree and identify with the bad stereotypes.

and yal c00ns be complaining about folks on that "let a brother get a hook up/discount"


If y'all all fukked up and in the same position thats what the fuk you're supposed to do you fukking bougie bootlicker


Black first......if the brother takes 5 minutes more to make a pizza than an Italian and charges 50 cents more then so fukkin be it

I hear you. Personally though, I think that if a black business delivers service that isn't as good as an alternative, there has to be an explicit reason for me to support them outside of skin color. By itself, I don't agree with the idea that just because someone is black, they deserve my patronage. I grew up in an area that was predominantly black and there are great owners and shytty owners just like every other race so I am selective with who I spend money with as a result. If two business owners are equal, then I will gravitate to the black owner every time. However, if a black business is obviously lagging the alternative options in terms of service, price, etc then they probably won't get my $$$.

That Statistic is fukking FALSE..... because white on white crime is 80% NATIONWIDE....

Your a cac...

Fam, just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are instantly race traitors or white.

The reason homicide is lower for other groups like hispanics or Aisans, is because a lot don't have as easy access to guns as do blacks & white citizens, and face deportation if they do even small violent crimes.

This presumes that the majority of the hispanic or Asian populations are here illegally and are not citizens. Do you have any data points to reinforce this? I know there are a lot of hispanic US citizens in Chicago that are about that life for example.

When you look at the ages of you see the highest is between 20-29, which correlates to the years that a lot of black men are out of work! That's also the ages that the high incarceration happens(16-34). You don't see the connection?

I think this is two-fold. There are systemic issues that lead to black men being unemployed such as a lack of resources in schools, but there are also inherently issues within some aspects of black society that glorify partying and blindly rebelling against the 'system' instead of pursuing an education. There are plenty of systemic issues that need to be addressed but there are also plenty of viewpoints within the community that can be optimized as well.

When I hear people throw out "they are 13% of the population, and commit 50% of the murder" I already know I'm dealing with a devil who is playing games to make us look bad or just an ignorant person who is trying to sound smart by repeating percentages with no understanding of what they are repeating! If you show the actual numbers no one would take those percentages serious, which is why you never hear anyone do it! Which makes me wonder what is your reason for doing it, since you claim you are black?[

You are not helping the situation by spreading ignorance by believing bullshyt. Prove people wrong, come with a proper solution, and then speak, but doing what you are doing is straight foul and can be used to make blacks look like the system wants us to. You need to think before speaking or posting!

I don't disagree with the overall idea that you are stating. I do still think there are internal changes that need to happen in terms of how we frame accountability and solutions in the African American conversation in order to move forward.

So, he proves you wrong with the nonsense you are dapping, tells you to prove him wrong, and you go into homicide rate?

And I prove you wrong with that, when looking at how you tried to use that statistic, so its clear to say you aren't black or at least a black american, and trying to shyt on black americans in a subtle way, but it doesn't work here, because we aren't the dumb asses you can pull the shyt on

Black people look out for the wolf in sheeps clothing. They may look like us, talk like us, but they are no different from the people who are against us. If he is saying nonsense in these posts on this site, imagine what he is doing to fuel the lies in real life, or on other sites! Its the propaganda lies that come first, that gives them reason to hurt you, and ignore your pain.

The fruit of a man will tell you what his true seed is, not the leaves on his tree or what he tells you

He quoted a fact. This idea that someone who quotes a fact that you don't like (or doesn't provide the context within which you see the fact) must automatically be white is such a troublesome narrative. If we can agree that there are various forms of institutional racism that negatively affect the African-American population in the US, we is it so far-fetched to also believe that there are various narratives in the black community that also negatively affect the African American community? While we work on destroying institutionalized racism, can we not acknowledge and work on some aspects that are not optimal within our own community? The idea that anyone who mentions the negative aspects of our community must automatically be white is disappointing.

 

[jilla82]

So, he proves you wrong with the nonsense you are dapping, tells you to prove him wrong, and you go into homicide rate?

And I prove you wrong with that, when looking at how you tried to use that statistic, so its clear to say you aren't black or at least a black american, and trying to shyt on black americans in a subtle way, but it doesn't work here, because we aren't the dumb asses you can pull the shyt on

Black people look out for the wolf in sheeps clothing. They may look like us, talk like us, but they are no different from the people who are against us. If he is saying nonsense in these posts on this site, imagine what he is doing to fuel the lies in real life, or on other sites! Its the propaganda lies that come first, that gives them reason to hurt you, and ignore your pain.

The fruit of a man will tell you what his true seed is, not the leaves on his tree or what he tells you

 

[jilla82]

This idea that we lack culture is just not true. Culture is defined based on its participants, not outsiders. You can choose to identify with positive aspects of black culture or the negative aspects of black culture. Therefore even if our culture is represented poorly in mainstream America, that doesn't mean that you have to agree and identify with the bad stereotypes.


I hear you. Personally though, I think that if a black business delivers service that isn't as good as an alternative, there has to be an explicit reason for me to support them outside of skin color. By itself, I don't agree with the idea that just because someone is black, they deserve my patronage. I grew up in an area that was predominantly black and there are great owners and shytty owners just like every other race so I am selective with who I spend money with as a result. If two business owners are equal, then I will gravitate to the black owner every time. However, if a black business is obviously lagging the alternative options in terms of service, price, etc then they probably won't get my $$$.


Fam, just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are instantly race traitors or white.

This presumes that the majority of the hispanic or Asian populations are here illegally and are not citizens. Do you have any data points to reinforce this? I know there are a lot of hispanic US citizens in Chicago that are about that life for example.


I think this is two-fold. There are systemic issues that lead to black men being unemployed such as a lack of resources in schools, but there are also inherently issues within some aspects of black society that glorify partying and blindly rebelling against the 'system' instead of pursuing an education. There are plenty of systemic issues that need to be addressed but there are also plenty of viewpoints within the community that can be optimized as well.


I don't disagree with the overall idea that you are stating. I do still think there are internal changes that need to happen in terms of how we frame accountability and solutions in the African American conversation in order to move forward.


He quoted a fact. This idea that someone who quotes a fact that you don't like (or doesn't provide the context within which you see the fact) must automatically be white is such a troublesome narrative. If we can agree that there are various forms of institutional racism that negatively affect the African-American population in the US, we is it so far-fetched to also believe that there are various narratives in the black community that also negatively affect the African American community? While we work on destroying institutionalized racism, can we not acknowledge and work on some aspects that are not optimal within our own community? The idea that anyone who mentions the negative aspects of our community must automatically be white is disappointing.

When I say culture...im talking straight business.
I just dont see it in numbers.

Listen...my dad was a black business owner, his friends were...and I worked in a black owned business (I actually never had a white boss other than B.S. jobs you have in highschool & College)....hell, we used to vacation with black ski clubs.
So I know we are out there.

Im just saying in mass...our numbers arent there.

IMO we spend way too much time trying to take care of our failures, and not enough bringing up the kids with some hope.

Some of these cats on the street just need to be had by the system.

When I read this site, every forum is consumed on race and white people.
I dont see many people talking about their lives and how they are working to get ahead.

Arent we more than our race?

 

[Macallik86]

When I read this site, every forum is consumed on race and white people.
I dont see many people talking about their lives and how they are working to get ahead.

Arent we more than our race?

I guess my response would be to ask you whether you are helping things change or reinforcing them with your engagement in the website? I have a feeling you think you are the exception to the rule, but looking at the threads you created gives me pause:

In terms of threads you've created, many appear to be in the vein of the things you are criticizing others for:
The Stigma of Being Young, Black and Republican
Since when did black people become the defenders of Mexicans?
Why are Blacks and Jews so different?
White privilege is dead
A video showing why so many black people (you) & white folks are full of shyt

 

[killacal]

@jilla82 is a cac

"I'm a black man by the way"

Foh cac negged

 

[jilla82]

I guess my response would be to ask you whether you are helping things change or reinforcing them with your engagement in the website? I have a feeling you think you are the exception to the rule, but looking at the threads you created gives me pause:

In terms of threads you've created, many appear to be in the vein of the things you are criticizing others for:
The Stigma of Being Young, Black and Republican
Since when did black people become the defenders of Mexicans?
Why are Blacks and Jews so different?
White privilege is dead
A video showing why so many black people (you) & white folks are full of shyt

well, because honestly, I come here for fukery.

Im in the red because anybody w/ a different type of opinion gets pushed aside.

Im not saying this is a black problem btw...this shyt is going on in every type of grouping...
...which is why I think so many people in this country are stuck on stupid.

The white boys on the right have people on Youtube/Tv telling them the blacks/mexicans/gays/democrats are the problem....
...black folks have the same thing, gays have the same thing, women have the same thing, etc....

So people just cant tolerate anything different than what they deal w/ each and every day.

On some real shyt....one of my life goals is to have a business where I can show young black men/boys all the ways they can make money out here...w/o having to be something they arent.

I just think a big problem with us is that we arent shown all the options in life.

 

[truth2you]

you didnt read what I said, because I addressed all this.

it seems like yall are more concerned with arguing w/ dumb white people on the internet than actually fixing shyt.

I dont pay attention to politics and social commentary, so my information just comes from things ive noticed in life and what I look up myself.

I really dont care about the opinion of some random white person on the internet that is sad and looking to make themselves feel better, and neither should you.

At the end of the day, what youre saying is partially true...but it doesnt change the fact that our culture is broke, and the everyday conversation of black people is backwards.

Im done with excuses, I just want action.

 

[truth2you]

Fam, just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are instantly race traitors or white.

This presumes that the majority of the hispanic or Asian populations are here illegally and are not citizens. Do you have any data points to reinforce this? I know there are a lot of hispanic US citizens in Chicago that are about that life for example.


I think this is two-fold. There are systemic issues that lead to black men being unemployed such as a lack of resources in schools, but there are also inherently issues within some aspects of black society that glorify partying and blindly rebelling against the 'system' instead of pursuing an education. There are plenty of systemic issues that need to be addressed but there are also plenty of viewpoints within the community that can be optimized as well.


I don't disagree with the overall idea that you are stating. I do still think there are internal changes that need to happen in terms of how we frame accountability and solutions in the African American conversation in order to move forward.


He quoted a fact. This idea that someone who quotes a fact that you don't like (or doesn't provide the context within which you see the fact) must automatically be white is such a troublesome narrative. If we can agree that there are various forms of institutional racism that negatively affect the African-American population in the US, we is it so far-fetched to also believe that there are various narratives in the black community that also negatively affect the African American community? While we work on destroying institutionalized racism, can we not acknowledge and work on some aspects that are not optimal within our own community? The idea that anyone who mentions the negative aspects of our community must automatically be white is disappointing.

1-Where did I say most Asians or hispanics are here illegaly? This is my quote: "The reason homicide is lower for other groups like hispanics or Aisans, is because a lot don't have as easy access to guns as do blacks & white citizens, and face deportation if they do even small violent crimes.

That doesn't mean they have NO homicides, it's just lower. The number was over 2,400 for hispanics, if I remember correctly. For Asians, they don't even deal with most people outside of their community, and are under control on their underground culture. I know this because I was close to some of them. If they have a problem they tend to go to one of those guys, and shyt gets handled. Again, we aren't talking about the average person, most of these killings come from street people, but when you see black, people just assume ALL of us! That is a fukking problem, how can you not see this, especially when you see how low the actual numbers are?
2-No, in some cities there are around 45% of young black men without jobs, what your excuse is your opinion. This is tied to the way the country is going with very few people hoarding most of the wealth. The issue is it will eventually be the end of these companies as well, and in the next few years those numbers will be most men regardless of race. I'm using data to explain why things are the way they are, not how I feel.
Watch to learn more


3- That is people in general. I can say that about any group, because there are murders, assaults, sexual abut, and more, in every group. My point was its not as big as some make it to be when they make the claim of 13% population, 50% homicides", If you don't look at tthe backgorund, you can flip that to make it seem what you want it to be, and the peopl who made those claims were trying to say blacks have a culture of violence, and street thinking, like "jdille82" is saying. But, if that was the case you would have WAY more homicides then that. Its a con game when using those stats instead of actual numbers

4-Do you read? He tried to discredit the savings claim, and when the poster told him to prove with data, he went into homicide rates? So, the fact that you didn't even see that, shows you have an agenda as well, because my first sentence was about that!

Every community has that, the problem is when you make the minority the majority, which is what he did. My family only had a few of us that had a street or as he called it "poverty culture", Including me at one time. BUT to say my grandmother, grandfather, mother, aunts cousins, nephew, and sister, nieces, have a street culture is straight disrespectful! That way of talking is why people see nothing wrong when we a treated foul by the system.

He is a clown who constantly does that shyt. He even tried to shyt on our food when there was no reason to. Nas opened his restaurant, and the picture showed outkast eating some chicken & waffles, and this fool said something disrespectful about the food being slave food or something like that. He isn't black or if he is he isn't black american.

 

[truth2you]

well, because honestly, I come here for fukery.

Im in the red because anybody w/ a different type of opinion gets pushed aside.

Im not saying this is a black problem btw...this shyt is going on in every type of grouping...
...which is why I think so many people in this country are stuck on stupid.

The white boys on the right have people on Youtube/Tv telling them the blacks/mexicans/gays/democrats are the problem....
...black folks have the same thing, gays have the same thing, women have the same thing, etc....

So people just cant tolerate anything different than what they deal w/ each and every day.

On some real shyt....one of my life goals is to have a business where I can show young black men/boys all the ways they can make money out here...w/o having to be something they arent.

I just think a big problem with us is that we arent shown all the options in life.

This is your problem. You read some books, and think they know how things work. I grew up with people who always worked for themselves,most of my family. I also hung around people(not black) who lived in well to do areas at one point(richest areas of nyc), so i know how things go. You can read a book, but books only tell the data, and even then if the person who writes the book is biased you still won't know the whole story. You have to experience things to understand or listen to someone who has no bias, which I don't.

I notice its people who never had real money always saying whats wrong with black people, and they just need to own their own business like that will change everything. I'm telling you first hand, it won't do anything if our politics isn't together, and we have people like "jdilla82" speaking for us, he is a dangerous to our community. Our economic issues, for the most part, have nothing to do with how we act, and more to do with systematic racism. By deflecting to "morals" for our situation, all you do is keep the real issues from being discussed, and helping those who use us to stay rich, stay rich. "jdilla82" has no idea how money works, I've seen him repeat shyt acting like he knows about wealth, but its abc shyt, and this was years ago. He's still doing the same thing! He's one of the reasons I had to stop posting here for a while, i got tired of ignorant shyt being passed around, and people just agreeing about what feels good. I'm starting to get that feeling again, because its not good for your health to be arguing all the time, especially to people who don't know what they're talking about, and won't concede to being wrong, just keep twisting words, and changing subject like he did with savings into homicide rates. shyt is tiring!

 

[Macallik86]

1-Where did I say most Asians or hispanics are here illegaly? This is my quote: "The reason homicide is lower for other groups like hispanics or Aisans, is because a lot don't have as easy access to guns as do blacks & white citizens, and face deportation if they do even small violent crimes.

You don't get deported if you are a US citizen

That doesn't mean they have NO homicides, it's just lower. The number was over 2,400 for hispanics, if I remember correctly. For Asians, they don't even deal with most people outside of their community, and are under control on their underground culture. I know this because I was close to some of them. If they have a problem they tend to go to one of those guys, and shyt gets handled. Again, we aren't talking about the average person, most of these killings come from street people, but when you see black, people just assume ALL of us! That is a fukking problem, how can you not see this, especially when you see how low the actual numbers are?
2-No, in some cities there are around 45% of young black men without jobs, what your excuse is your opinion. This is tied to the way the country is going with very few people hoarding most of the wealth. The issue is it will eventually be the end of these companies as well, and in the next few years those numbers will be most men regardless of race. I'm using data to explain why things are the way they are, not how I feel.
Watch to learn more

I am well aware of the disproportionate spread of wealth in the US and how the divide is getting greater. Thanks for sharing though

3- That is people in general. I can say that about any group, because there are murders, assaults, sexual abut, and more, in every group. My point was its not as big as some make it to be when they make the claim of 13% population, 50% homicides", If you don't look at tthe backgorund, you can flip that to make it seem what you want it to be, and the peopl who made those claims were trying to say blacks have a culture of violence, and street thinking, like "jdille82" is saying. But, if that was the case you would have WAY more homicides then that. Its a con game when using those stats instead of actual numbers

I don't think it is rampant in the black community. I do accept that fact that we have a disproportionate amount of crime relative to other races.

According to 2010 Census data, African Americans .01% of the black population have been arrested for murderer. That reinforces your point that the VAST majority of African Americans are not doing that bullshyt, but it also shows that, when compared to other races, we are ahead in a bad way:

0.01% of Black or African American population (4,379/38,929,319)
0.0017% of White American and Hispanic American population (3,799/223,553,265)
0.0033% of American Indian or Alaska Native population (98/2,932,248)
0.0007% of Asian American population (101/14,674,252)
0.001% of Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander population (6/540,013).[46][48]

....And, since I care about black lives, I am interested in addressing and resolving the issue instead of blaming other people while blacks continue to die. You keep calling the 13% / 50% metric a claim as if it is not real. There are definitely systemic issues at play that account for a sizeable portion of those murders, but there is also fukkery and foolishness that account for a sizeable portion of those murders as well.

4-Do you read? He tried to discredit the savings claim, and when the poster told him to prove with data, he went into homicide rates? So, the fact that you didn't even see that, shows you have an agenda as well, because my first sentence was about that!

It is counter-intuitive to think that African-Americans have a disproportionate amount of people in poverty (in part due to systemic racism) but yet we have comparable savings amounts. A quick google search easily shows how misguided it is to try to ignore that African Americans have ground to catch up financially. This isn't because the white is better or any dumb shyt like that, it is because of a mixture of institutional racism that has played out over time AS WELL AS some viewpoints in black culture glorifying spending money more than saving money.
How the Racial Wealth Gap is Spelled Out Through Retirement Savings
The Retirement Crisis Facing African Americans
The racial wealth gap: How African-Americans have been shortchanged out of the materials to build wealth

Every community has that, the problem is when you make the minority the majority, which is what he did. My family only had a few of us that had a street or as he called it "poverty culture", Including me at one time. BUT to say my grandmother, grandfather, mother, aunts cousins, nephew, and sister, nieces, have a street culture is straight disrespectful! That way of talking is why people see nothing wrong when we a treated foul by the system.

Yes. I can understand why bad stereotypes being generalizing to good people is frustrating. Unlike the other poster, believe that black culture is a great thing. I think there are some aspects that can be better optimized though, but that is far outweighed by the positive aspects.

He is a clown who constantly does that shyt. He even tried to shyt on our food when there was no reason to. Nas opened his restaurant, and the picture showed outkast eating some chicken & waffles, and this fool said something disrespectful about the food being slave food or something like that. He isn't black or if he is he isn't black american.

True. Didn't catch any of that so I can't comment on that. If I come across any of that, I'll throw him on the ignore list.

 

[23Barrettcity]

We can't fix the system because it's the system and when say obama and Eric holder try anything we wind up with trump and seasons undoing everything . And dummies in this thread always Hilary is the same and what difference does it make ?

 

[truth2you]

You don't get deported if you are a US citizen


I am well aware of the disproportionate spread of wealth in the US and how the divide is getting greater. Thanks for sharing though


I don't think it is rampant in the black community. I do accept that fact that we have a disproportionate amount of crime relative to other races.

According to 2010 Census data, African Americans .01% of the black population have been arrested for murderer. That reinforces your point that the VAST majority of African Americans are not doing that bullshyt, but it also shows that, when compared to other races, we are ahead in a bad way:


....And, since I care about black lives, I am interested in addressing and resolving the issue instead of blaming other people while blacks continue to die. You keep calling the 13% / 50% metric a claim as if it is not real. There are definitely systemic issues at play that account for a sizeable portion of those murders, but there is also fukkery and foolishness that account for a sizeable portion of those murders as well.



It is counter-intuitive to think that African-Americans have a disproportionate amount of people in poverty (in part due to systemic racism) but yet we have comparable savings amounts. A quick google search easily shows how misguided it is to try to ignore that African Americans have ground to catch up financially. This isn't because the white is better or any dumb shyt like that, it is because of a mixture of institutional racism that has played out over time AS WELL AS some viewpoints in black culture glorifying spending money more than saving money.
How the Racial Wealth Gap is Spelled Out Through Retirement Savings
The Retirement Crisis Facing African Americans
The racial wealth gap: How African-Americans have been shortchanged out of the materials to build wealth


Yes. I can understand why bad stereotypes being generalizing to good people is frustrating. Unlike the other poster, believe that black culture is a great thing. I think there are some aspects that can be better optimized though, but that is far outweighed by the positive aspects.


True. Didn't catch any of that so I can't comment on that. If I come across any of that, I'll throw him on the ignore list.

1-Don't you think i would know that, so its obvious what I meant? (Not trying to be disrespectful). Let me explain, when a lot of them do crimes, specifically hispanics, they know they can face deportation, and a lot are not citizens, so they either deal with the situation with less homicides, or they just leave the country when this happens(both immigrants, and citizens). A lot of mexicans/latins near california, or texas, do this.
Why Do Fugitives Flee to Mexico?
"As with fugitives who remain in the United States, not every one that crosses the border will get picked up by police of course. In 2010, federal estimates suggested about 1,000 fugitives wanted for crimes in the United States were believed to be hiding out in Mexico.

Even criminals who are caught won't necessarily face justice in the United States. Mexico, like many European countries and Canada, will not extradite a felon unless the government has a guarantee that individual will not face the death penalty upon return to the United States. Mexico will extradite if the maximum penalty is a life sentence, however. U.S. prosecutors are loath to make such concessions, but as one attorney told USA Today in 2008, "The option we have is absolutely no justice, or partial justice."

2-Ok

3-That's what happens with high poverty. its the reason why latins, and blacks fill the prisons, and they are not for violence its for drugs, or robbery, which means MONEY!

4-Come on man, most of those groups you showed are low in population, we are over 46,000,000. The only group who you showed that compared is white/ hispanic BUT whites don't have a high poverty rate, so no need to fight for low resources, and a lot aren't arrested in the first place, let alone charged. Those numbers show who got arrested, not who actually did all the crimes,there are tons of false arrests as we now see with dna testings, and i already explained the latin reasons. But its still about race with them, along with not being a us citizen. If you look at the rate of murders between immigrants, and citizens, I bet you will see its mostly citizens being caught. BEING CAUGHT is very important in the numbers, because a lot go back across the boarder when they do some of these crimes, so the numbers go unreported. That is why you have to look at the statistics with a background understanding.

I never said the statistic wasn't real, I stated it isn't significant when you look at the population number, so they use the statistics to play with your emotions because its such a drastic range. Its how the emotional brain works, it like to simplify things. If you live under stress, and poor, shyt happens, I'm just being realistic. I know because I went though it, and used to have to control myself, life is not a book, stress, and being poor causes you to make stupid choices which is why once I realized this, i chose to stay away from certain people because I knew I would eventually give in, and it may be too late to turn back. Imagine a child who didn't have this option. I didn't grow up poor, but I lost the money i made in my early 20's, and had to fix myself, as a grown man it aint easy because no one cares, and I still had issues from growing up, especially living in NYC from the 80's-the 90's, shyt wasn't a walk in the park. STRESS IS REAL! It has nothing to do with morals, most of the time, although I will admit it does help keep you from going over the edge too quick

5-AGAIN, we are a large population, so you can have both. People keep forgetting if the group you are studying is in the millions, you can have both. We have around 25% in poverty, and most in middle class or shall I say working middle class because its not big money being saved, and passed around like the image of middle class. But we come from slavery, and Jim crow, of course most of us won't have that luxury especially if you are trying to live life, and also end up having kids plus college debt. I'm not saying it can't be done, but you have to be honest with yourself in order to make change. I'm telling as someone who taught himself how to make, and use money, other then physical work. I was able to do it, because I was real with myself and learn everything about sex so I didn't slip up and have kids, most people don't have that discipline with sex, doesn't mean they should suffer because of it. I used to sell tapes in h.s., and do other things to get money so i was a hustler, and saw my mother own her own shyt, so I saw money isn't promised tomorrow when working for yourself, so I HAD to learn the game of life with NO BOOKS. Most people don't have this opportunity, or willing to be real about their likes, so they end up making major mistakes that effect the money. What we need to do more then personal savings(still needs to be done, but wisely), is finding people who are willing to work with you, and create a sou sou system like some African, and west indians do, so we ALL can come up. Just saving, or investing aint gonna cut it because it takes time, and life happens. You know how many people lost their money in the stock market in 2008! that includes retirement accounts.

We look at it like its a sure thing, but its nothing but "smart" gambling, nothing is sure, except bonds because you know if the government goes, you have more to worry about, but that isn't a way to get rich for most people. I think a new crash is coming, and will be big, so people need to stop thinking savings, and stocks is gonna save them forever, its that plus ownership, plus government intervention to make sure we have a safety net when these things go wrong because they WILL. Unfortunately it may not be soon because the trump administration are soon going to allow it to where a financial advisor is not required to show you investments that are of your best interest, that means they can offer you anything because they will still get a fee regardless how the investment may do. Its called fiduciary rule.

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