David chase finally confirms tony soprano got killed

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I thought it was the skinny whiteboy who caught Vito giving head and then he told the crew.
finn catches vito and tells maedo in season 5. then in season 6 maedo hears carm and ro gossiping about vito and tells them cause she wants to impress them with her gossip. then t walks in, maedo tells him and he brings phil in to satriales
Loved Season two. Incredibly slept on. Just cause it wasn't in the hood.
im watching season 2 rright now on a rewatch and its incredible television. from a directing perspective shyt might be even better than season 1. only thing i dont like about it is annoying ass ziggy
 

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Didnt they squash it with New York, why would Tony have been killed?
Butcher is the one who instigated the entire feud. He wanted Tony out at the beginning of season 6, and Phil said no. Butchie was the ultimate instigator and couldn't be trusted. In fact, Paulie WARNS Tony that Butchie may have deceived them when Carlo goes missing, which is why it makes no sense that Paulie was in on it.
His crew broke the cardinal sin by having Phil whacked in front of family
It was in the plans to kill Tony. But yeah that may not have went over well either.

New York just used him to get rid of Phil and rid their hands of him. Best believe they still wacked him of principle. 2 birds one stone shyt. They would have lost all street cred once it got out tony killed a 5 family boss and was still breathing. That’s why they didn’t give tony his location at the meeting they wanted total deniability.
Good point.
There’s another scene in that same episode where Tony is sitting by the lake, hears a bell chime off twice, and keeps looking over at it. Surprised it’s not on YouTube. Bells seem to be the harbinger of death on this show, and that goes all the way back to the first season.
It's on YouTube. I saw it again a few months ago.
 

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Wire was perfect until Season 5. They blew it.
I think they tied it up quite nicely. It's about the drug game, did you expect a textbook ending?


They even kinda showed how Omar became Omar when Mike started robbing nikkas and Dukie became a junkie and randy would grow up to be Prop Joe.
 

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He popped Phil in front of his damn wife and grandbabies.

Tony and his crew were weak as fukk at that point..perfect time to take him out and get him at ease was to make a deal.


And he was gonna get charged with a RICO..his life was over.
He said it to his Doctor and to Bobby at the Lake two ways life for him ends either in the Can or dead.
 

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I think they tied it up quite nicely. It's about the drug game, did you expect a textbook ending?


They even kinda showed how Omar became Omar when Mike started robbing nikkas and Dukie became a junkie and randy would grow up to be Prop Joe.

Season 5 wasn't even supposed to be the last season. They rushed to cobble together an ending. Season 6 was supposed to be about the Baltimore school system.
 

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Even season two? I HATED it.
While I didn't love it Season 3 came through and crushed the buildings Season 2 was necessary. White dudes facilitate all that shyt coming through and they never get locked up. Only the Black people.
 

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Season 5 wasn't even supposed to be the last season. They rushed to cobble together an ending. Season 6 was supposed to be about the Baltimore school system.
That was season 4 correct? Season 5 was about the media and technically the Black dude who wrote about Bubbles was actually David Simon. There was a real Bubbles who was a major snitch except the real Bubbles died of an overdose.
 

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finn catches vito and tells maedo in season 5. then in season 6 maedo hears carm and ro gossiping about vito and tells them cause she wants to impress them with her gossip. then t walks in, maedo tells him and he brings phil in to satriales

im watching season 2 rright now on a rewatch and its incredible television. from a directing perspective shyt might be even better than season 1. only thing i dont like about it is annoying ass ziggy
Ziggy was both funny and white privelige personified. Again he showed how stupid motherfukkers fukk up everything they touch.
 

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That was season 4 correct? Season 5 was about the media and technically the Black dude who wrote about Bubbles was actually David Simon. There was a real Bubbles who was a major snitch except the real Bubbles died of an overdose.

Nah, season six was supposed to be a deep dive into the school system and the growing tensions between black and hispanic students.
 

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This the Prequel was all over the place.

Ralph said that him Jackie and Sil were school friends that had their own little crew and that Jackie suggested that they rob Feech's card game.

So How was Sil hanging around dikkie? Also p*ssy a Paulie were older than Tone but Paul was older than p*ssy and Sil said that some meaning Paul was around before the beginning.

It also would've made more sense that the Black dude working for dikkie would've been Willie Overall, They made some street gang kid an Overall but not Willie who was Tone's first hit.

They tried to shoehorn too much shyt into the movie.
it should've been a miniseries tbh. I do like the added context it gives to the show, but it doesn't really work as a movie, especially not a 2 hour one.
 

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finn catches vito and tells maedo in season 5. then in season 6 maedo hears carm and ro gossiping about vito and tells them cause she wants to impress them with her gossip. then t walks in, maedo tells him and he brings phil in to satriales

im watching season 2 rright now on a rewatch and its incredible television. from a directing perspective shyt might be even better than season 1. only thing i dont like about it is annoying ass ziggy
I rewatched earlier this year and I want to rewatch it again. My favorite episode is still the Pine Barrens. Such an incredible episode, and they never followed up with what happened to the Russian special forces guy
 

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the dude goes into the bathroom like in the godfather when michael kills the turk and the police captain

remember when chris went to hell and gave tony a message, “watch your three o’clock”? the bathroom was at tonys 3 o’clock

also, theres a picture of a house on the diner wall right next to tony. its the same house that keeps showing up in tonys dreams (like the finnety family reunion) and it represents hell on the show
What made the show so good, You had to really watch to catch those hidden gems, it goes with the many saints of Newark story later as well dikkie was supposed to meet Tony after ignoring him because everyone close to him ends up hurt and was avoiding young tony for fear of ruining his life. Eventually he comes around and tells Tony to meet him in that exact diner after dikkie is killed it cuts to the the scene of Tony waiting on him at the bar with the milk shake and dikkie doesn’t show and Tony leaves not knowing why he didn’t make it before the wake scene at the funeral home.
 
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