David Frum (who im NOT a fan of): If the left say borders are fascist, voters will hire fascists

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1. I assume this is semantics but I think everyone knows what he meant and that Bernie is the driving force of M4A being adopted by all presidential hopefuls in the Democratic party.

2. Bernie Sanders on Criminal Justice

https://theintercept.com/2018/06/14/bernie-sanders-criminal-justice-reform/
He knows what I mean. He's just trolling :lolbron:.


And Nap is only trying to argue this immigration angle because he can't accept that the party has taken up Sanders's positions on Healthcare and prison reform and thinks it's in the parties best interest to undermine itself so that progressives don't get this win (too bad they already won).
 

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He knows what I mean. He's just trolling :lolbron:.


And Nap is only trying to argue this immigration angle because he can't accept that the party has taken up Sanders's positions on Healthcare and prison reform and thinks it's in the parties best interest to undermine itself so that progressives don't get this win (too bad they already won).

I think it may have also to do with the Mueller investigation taking a hit since the Kavanaugh confirmation. His thread has come to a crawl in recent weeks.
 

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I think it may have also to do with the Mueller investigation taking a hit since the Kavanaugh confirmation. His thread has come to a crawl in recent weeks.
Yea, that threads going to be slow until after November 6 . And just like last year napnao will secure the WOAT during this stretch despite their being worse posters who go into hiding until the end of the year to decrease visibility.

Oh well. :manny:
 

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No, that's not what those numbers mean. :heh:

The US has never endorsed an open borders policy, not even under Obama.

The purpose of these numbers, as @DEAD7 picked up on, is to show that Trump's border policies has not served as a deterrent for illegal border crossings.

Ergo, the more people attempting to cross means there are more people crossing.

Initially, Border crossing arrest shaw a sharp decline due to rhetoric.

the graph says at the bottom that its the number of interior arrests, you dont even know what you are posting
 

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Iirc, Obama changed the way deportations were counted. Illegal migrants turned away at the border never counted as deportations before, this inflated his stats.

that is true, but what obama started doing was actually really bad, for illegal immigrants, the people that were turned away were processed through the system, meaning they had paperwork on them, so in the long run they were screwed if they ever tried to enter again or tried to apply for asylym or a regular visa, in essence they werent just being turned away, they were being banned from the US period, if people tried crossing again they could end up in jail and you could never apply for any type of visa or asylum

now if you combined that with the secure communities program were everybody was having their fingerprints ran through the feds, it was creating a system were it would be hard for illegal immigrants to live and crossing the border would have serious legal consequences

that is why obama was forced to back off, he was doing to good of a job
 
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