David Frum (who im NOT a fan of): If the left say borders are fascist, voters will hire fascists

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Nap, your contributions have been super trash heading into game time. Stop publishing these garbage wedge issues that Trump and the Repubs want you to focus on. There is one issue, and one issue only that all of America cares about, it’s healthcare. The Repubs were never gonna vote Dems, and if they were, they would, and immigration isn’t gonna push them one way or another. It’s ridiculous to even have the convo, considering that all the messaging is based on untruths.
You're wrong again.

My point is to make democrats better on this issue by taking the right stance.

Immigration is costing democrats votes. PERIOD. Especially with black voters.
 

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Pretty straight forward. Despite the rhetoric, illegal border crossings from the south have increased under Trump.

That doesn't fall in line with the bad faith argument being pushed by Trump, Twism, Frum and those claiming that Trump is tougher and more effective on illegal immigration than Obama.

Just another con being ran by Trump. :umad:
so you're celebrating the fact that more illegals are coming to crush black labor?
 

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And there's supporting evidence since the numbers fell when we hit our recession. Matter of fact, for the last 10 the number outgoing had been essentially the same as incoming, the number flattened out (although some posts in this thread may be pointing toTrump's policies actually reversing that trend). So people like Nap that are fearmongering about illegal immigration are seriously just buying into a Republican (and let's be honest, White Supremacist) frame.
The problem is you let democrats kick this can down the road so far that republicans have to deal with it and enact worse policies around it.

black democrats are NOT fans of illegals.

You don't care about black labor, and thats fine. If you're not black.

I'm black, and frankly it bothers me because no black politician has the balls to say this. So what happens as a result? Only republicans take up the mantle.

Except when black politicians USED to defend black citizens against illegals: Sen Barack Obama Illegal Immigration | User Clip | C-SPAN.org





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The problem is you let democrats kick this can down the road so far that republicans have to deal with it and enact worse policies around it.

black democrats are NOT fans of illegals.

You don't care about black labor, and thats fine. If you're not black.

I'm black, and frankly it bothers me because no black politician has the balls to say this. So what happens as a result? Only republicans take up the mantle. Coming up with or looking into strategies that could unite

Except when black politicians USED to defend black citizens against illegals: Sen Barack Obama Illegal Immigration | User Clip | C-SPAN.org



@Raymond Burrr @Red Shield @bdizzle @satam55 @Michael's Black Son @Trajan @Sukairain @YouMadd? @Matt504 @SupremexKing @#1 pick @Clutch Robinson @Cat piss martini @AndroidHero @Pirius Black @ba'al @panopticon

Fight for black labor by aligning with white supremacists while ignoring the "punish employers" aspect of Obama's messaging breh.
 

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Fight for black labor by aligning with white supremacists while ignoring the "punish employers" aspect of Obama's messaging breh.

It's funny because @∆y = f(∆x) is turning into the worst aspects of the "Bernie Bro"/"far left" that he claims he hates. It's pretty clear he's a closet case(Republican).
 

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:heh:@ going by ad mentions in the last month when Dems have threatened to shut down the american govt. over undocumented children earlier this year...


:hubie:Its not that big deal though, I don't expect this issue which Dems are wrong on to appear in as many ads as taxes, healthcare etc. You win.
DACA recipients aren't illegal immigrants and maintained a protected status as legal residents.

DACA is also overwhelmingly popular among democrats and republican citizens.

DACA was only bright up by Trump as a bargaining tool. Once he realized he didn't have the votes for what he wanted and lost his Supreme Court battle he quietly moved on after taking an L.

Imagine suggesting, as you are, that campaign ads are not indicative of what candidates are talking about. :deadmanny:
 

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then you don't care about black labor.

You can't have as many illegals as you do actual black citizens and expect black people to ignore it.
Here you are trying this again.

Everything I listed improved the black predicament in America more than illegal immigrants.

As a black voter you can have two of three, which will you pick?

  1. Free healthcare
  2. Prison reform
  3. Building a wall
 
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