Daz Dillinger: Tupac and Dr. Dre' got into it!

[Jacaveli The Don]

A lot of people in this thread questioning why Daz never produced a beat like on Chronic or Doggystyle without ever listening a Dogg Pound, Daz or Kurupt album

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Daz's beats are more musical and have groovier basslines compared to Dre's shyt. More Jazz influenced. U could tell a Daz beat ESPECIALLY from that time frame that way. He was also versatile cause he could make some hard shyt like Ambitions as a Ridah.

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/retro-joeski-love-pee-wee-dance-ambitionz-as-a-ridah.419492/

 

[spliz]

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/retro-joeski-love-pee-wee-dance-ambitionz-as-a-ridah.419492/

Exactly. Daz flipped and bodied this shyt. Lol

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Exactly. Daz flipped and bodied this shyt. Lol

meh. he didn't body anything.

its practically the same beat.

but hey, dr dre built like most of his legacy off of str8 samples, so I'm not knockin daz. but I'm saying.

 

[spliz]

meh. he didn't body anything.

its practically the same beat.

but hey, dr dre built like most of his legacy off of str8 samples, so I'm not knockin daz. but I'm saying.

He took the drums and flipped it into somethin hard. Changed the whole vibe of the sample. Same way Havoc did with White Lines on Quiet Storm. It's basically the whole sample. But he made it into a whole other beast. Changed the whole vibe. That's the beauty of sampling in Hip Hop. But this is The Coli where nikkas is either too hard to impress or too easy. U posting that sample doesnt hurt Daz's case whatsoever.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

He took the drums and flipped it into somethin hard. Changed the whole vibe of the sample. Same way Havoc did with White Lines on Quiet Storm. It's basically the whole sample. But he made it into a whole other beast. Changed the whole vibe. That's the beauty of sampling in Hip Hop. Dre on the other hand was straight looping more or less. Kept the same vibe of the samples n all that.

the drums were already hard.

he modified it so that it would sound '96 instead of '86, but that's about it.
havoc did way more to the white lines beat breh. that's a bad comparison. what daz did with the pee-wee beat is more in line with dr dre actually.

cant say daz killed it. whoever did the pee-wee beat is the one that killed it. does anybody even know who produced it? this is a travesty.

 

[spliz]

the drums were already hard.

he modified it so that it would sound '96 instead of '86, but that's about it.
havoc did way more to the white lines beat breh. that's a bad comparison. what daz did with the pee-wee beat is more in line with dr dre actually.

cant say daz killed it. whoever did the pee-wee beat is the one that killed it. does anybody even know who produced it? this is a travesty.

All Havoc did was slow the fukkin Bass line down for White Lines and add some synths. Beefed up the drums a lil bit. How did he do way more? I'm a producer bruh. If anything they did equal amount of work. Quiet Storm ain't one of Hav joints where he literally flips and filters a sample to the point it's unrecognizable. Some sampled beats don't have to be the most difficult to pull off. Just be creative and sound dope. Like I said. What Daz added to the sample made the whole vibe of the shyt sound different. Hav did the same with White Lines. Also it still doesn't change the fact of Daz's beats being more groovy and Jazz influenced. I really don't know what the point of u posting the sample for Ambition Az a Ridah was for. Are u tryna say Daz ain't dope or he ain't versatile or something?

 

[Grand_Verbalizer]

meh. he didn't body anything.

its practically the same beat.

That's ridiculous, kinda like saying everyone who looped "synthetic substitution" or "impeach the president" made the same beat

Are you ignoring the piano riff, bass line, strings, synth line and the female vocals on the beat or do your ears not work properly ?

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

All Havoc did was slow the fukkin Bass line down for White Lines and add some synths. Beefed up the drums a lil bit. How did he do way more? I'm a producer bruh. If anything they did equal amount of work. Quiet Storm ain't one of Hav joints where he literally flips and filters a sample to the point it's unrecognizable. Some sampled beats don't have to be the most difficult to pull off. Just be creative and sound dope. Like I said. What Daz added to the sample made the whole vibe of the shyt sound different. Hav did the same with White Lines. Also it still doesn't change the fact of Daz's beats being more groovy and Jazz influenced. I really don't know what the point of u posting the sample for Ambition Az a Ridah was for. Are u tryna say Daz ain't dope or he ain't versatile or something?

you being a producer is neither here nor there.

the difference between "ambitionz of a ridah" & "quiet storm" is that ambitionz is darn near identical to the original beat, and you can recognize the sample instantly. with quiet storm, you have to stop and think about it at the very least.

daz repleaced the pee-wee herman melody. other than that, theres not much else to what he did.

as for the last part of your post, I'm not in here for the daz/dre argument. I'm just in here on behalf of the pee-wee dance breh. respect the architects.

 

[intruder]

producer doesnt mean beatmaker, Im just saying for that dude trying to give out false info

everything else is 100

production is literally, sequencing etc ... anything that helps produce a real song

Thank you!!!

People who never played instruments or never understood music can't understand this.

But at the same time who are we kidding here? The hood translation of "producer" is you're the God that gave girth to the non-lyrical part of the song from scratch. So my expectations of people to understand this should lower a bit

 

[Deadman187]

"Skandalouz" would probably be more accurate. That has Quik written all over it.

Yep, Quik confirmed he worked on that record as well as other songs on All eyez on me

DX: I just know “Skandalouz” wouldn’t be the classic it is without the talk box [you added to it].

DJ Quik: Yeah, I touched [that record]. I had my boy, Cornelius Mims, play bass on it. That wasDaz [Dillinger]’s beat. Daz shot it to me and I really made it a record that they wouldn’t have to clear a sample with. I played Rhodes [electric piano] on there too. I was coming.

DX: How did it happen that you even came to be adding those extra synths to “Heaven Ain’t Hard 2 Find,” and basically remaking “Thug Passion” into the fully funked out track it became?

DJ Quik: It was because they gave me freedom in there. Suge [Knight] was like, “Do you.” I was like, “Okay. Put the tapes up. Get me an engineer that’ll run for me, patch wires for me, go back to the wall. Get me coffee and I’m good.” That’s what the engineers back then did for me. Some of ‘em really worked their asses off. But, some of ‘em were … subservient. It is what it is. He gave me a little power and let me rock out.

DJ Quik: Against All Odds

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

I give Dre credit for G funk. I mean the rap version. G Funk primarily is classic R&B remixed. Above the Law was wack. They may have given him an idea and he ran with it, but their beats and rap were trash for the most part.

Dre just tried to get slick and take credit for everything after the first Chronic album. Dre essentially did like one or two songs on All Eyez on Me. NONE on Makaveli and these are both classics.

It's a shame though how ignorant nikkas can't be together. Imagine if Dre, Quik, Sam Sneed, and Daz made beats together? Nobody could've touched Death Row. But Suge Knight is the most ignorant bytch on the planet. Imagine is fagot ass p*ssy Puffy didn't set 2PAC up. Bad Boy would have been non existent.

Where did Dre try to take credit for these?

 

[BrothaZay]

lol, Daz beats without Dre are wacc as fucc

 

[jwonder]

Where did Dre try to take credit for these?

He tried to take credit for All Eyez on Me. But not Makaveli because he was at aftermath at that point. My point is, those tracks on both albums were just as good as Dre's. A lot of people are saying Death Row flopped because Dre left, but that is not true. It was because Suge Knight was an idiot. The production team was like no other record label.

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

He tried to take credit for All Eyez on Me. But not Makaveli because he was at aftermath at that point. My point is, those tracks on both albums were just as good as Dre's. A lot of people are saying Death Row flopped because Dre left, but that is not true. It was because Suge Knight was an idiot. The production team was like no other record label.

Show the AEOM credits then.