MajesticLion
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DDG says today’s generation of rappers are better than rappers from back in the day.
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Sticatto flow dont mean you dope just because it sounds good
Rappers back in the day were actually saying something and had quotables.
IsThatBrothaMouzone?
Veteran
Rappers today are too choppy and can't string together a continuous flow.
Listen to something like Mos Def 'Ms. Fat Booty." Smooth bars, lots of flow....lots of words but telling a story.
Guys these days chop up their lyrics so that they turn a 150 word paragraph into a 4 minute song. Halting and choppy.
Listen to something like Mos Def 'Ms. Fat Booty." Smooth bars, lots of flow....lots of words but telling a story.
Guys these days chop up their lyrics so that they turn a 150 word paragraph into a 4 minute song. Halting and choppy.
Duke Dixon
Superstar
@spliz
I disagree with you. I compared the rappers over the years to show that they got more technical with their writing as time went on and stayed relevant because they evolved with the times. I also think 15-20 years is far back enough. I'm sure I can find plenty of wack rappers from the 90s too to compare to what's popular today. Bar for bar flow for flow I know Durk rap better than MC Hammer and he was the first rapper to go Diamond. Then there's Vanilla Ice and Marky Mark that I can remember about. I'm sure Jack Harlow raps better than them even though I don't listen to them. There's plenty of Mcs that were vets in the early 2000s that were considered lyrical back then that rap today switching flows within versus, using more internal rhyme schemes, and substituting simalies for metaphors.
I tried to match artists experience in the early 2000s with today's examples and songs that had similar content. MBY now has been rapping for about 8 years which is how long TI was with Trap Muzik. Country Grammer and The Box were both Nelly and Roddy Rich debut singles.
The only person that I can think of off the top of my head that was rapping back in the mid 90s then and still does it is Method Man and you can see that he changed his rhyme patterns and metaphors to the way people rap today. Meth on On Brind Da Pain to Meth on Lemon from last year. Meth rhyme patterns, wordplay, and metaphors are on a higher level than what he did one Bring the Pain. Id rather listen to Bring the Pain if I had to choose.
My point to begin with is that it's harder to internally rhyme and use metaphors that have double meaning. So from a technical standpoint the bar has been raised although I don't believe that makes someone a better rapper overall.
I disagree with you. I compared the rappers over the years to show that they got more technical with their writing as time went on and stayed relevant because they evolved with the times. I also think 15-20 years is far back enough. I'm sure I can find plenty of wack rappers from the 90s too to compare to what's popular today. Bar for bar flow for flow I know Durk rap better than MC Hammer and he was the first rapper to go Diamond. Then there's Vanilla Ice and Marky Mark that I can remember about. I'm sure Jack Harlow raps better than them even though I don't listen to them. There's plenty of Mcs that were vets in the early 2000s that were considered lyrical back then that rap today switching flows within versus, using more internal rhyme schemes, and substituting simalies for metaphors.
I tried to match artists experience in the early 2000s with today's examples and songs that had similar content. MBY now has been rapping for about 8 years which is how long TI was with Trap Muzik. Country Grammer and The Box were both Nelly and Roddy Rich debut singles.
The only person that I can think of off the top of my head that was rapping back in the mid 90s then and still does it is Method Man and you can see that he changed his rhyme patterns and metaphors to the way people rap today. Meth on On Brind Da Pain to Meth on Lemon from last year. Meth rhyme patterns, wordplay, and metaphors are on a higher level than what he did one Bring the Pain. Id rather listen to Bring the Pain if I had to choose.
My point to begin with is that it's harder to internally rhyme and use metaphors that have double meaning. So from a technical standpoint the bar has been raised although I don't believe that makes someone a better rapper overall.
Semi-related: These dudes gotta do a better job of acknowledging that hip-hop is nearly 50 years old and therefore cuts across multiple generations (Late boomers, Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z, and now Gen Alpha).
In other words, nikkas are just throwing qualifiers like "old" around and not realizing that shyt is contextual/relative. For example, regarding age, some of the Chicago Drill rappers from the early 10s are closer to 30 than 20. Hell, even the "mumble rap" crowd has been around for around 6-7 years (Kodak is already in his mid-twenties).
In other words, nikkas are just throwing qualifiers like "old" around and not realizing that shyt is contextual/relative. For example, regarding age, some of the Chicago Drill rappers from the early 10s are closer to 30 than 20. Hell, even the "mumble rap" crowd has been around for around 6-7 years (Kodak is already in his mid-twenties).
Dzali OG
Dz Ali OG...Pay me like you owe me!
And this is actually what this generation calls evolution.
When you said Mos Def "spit a smooth bar"...these jits don't like smooth. That's oldhead flow to them.
Thing is, the stuccotto flow, rushed delivery, no organized format isn't new. We had E40, Ol Dirty Bas, and various people from the midwest...actually Common on his first album.
I understand what they're trying to do even though nothing new under the sun. 90s rappers changed the cadence and delivery in '92 to where them rappers from the 80s sounded dated.
Duke Dixon
Superstar
@Still Benefited that's why I said only from a technical standpoint. I'm sorry if you didn't follow the original message since I can't insert quotes on this site. DMX is one of my favorite rappers not because he was technical but because you connected to his songs emotionally. BTW I'm saying technical not technically I think that might be tripping you guys up.
Rhyme n Tekniq
Superstar
another awefully telegraphed attempt to troll "old heads" with half-assed hot takes about an era they cant surpass due to their own hubris and prideful ignorance. I'm slippin all that shyt and carrying on
these lil nikkas act like bytches who try to annoy you because they like you. All the theatrics and chest puffin about being better dont mean shyt, go out and produce a body of work on that level or better , but until then Shut the fukk up.
these lil nikkas act like bytches who try to annoy you because they like you. All the theatrics and chest puffin about being better dont mean shyt, go out and produce a body of work on that level or better , but until then Shut the fukk up.
DatBoiHawk
HAWK
They making songs in 10 minutes now these new rappers actually bragging about “not writing” them abc ass bars they saying. Listen to old music from the 90s like big timers how u luv dat or the old e-40 the bumble and shyt you can tell they took time to make the songs and think about what they were saying and they had actual production. The quality of music was just so much better back then. Basically comparing a fukking hot pocket to a fully cooked meal from a 5 star chef
probably said the same thing about
Desiigner
BlockboyJB
Dej Loaf
Trinidad James
Lil Pump
Trippie Redd
Slumpgod
yep. all these rappers, that we all remember and are talking about to this day, are better than rappers from back in the day
Desiigner
BlockboyJB
Dej Loaf
Trinidad James
Lil Pump
Trippie Redd
Slumpgod
yep. all these rappers, that we all remember and are talking about to this day, are better than rappers from back in the day
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the level of intelligence demonstrated by rappers has taken a vertical drop from the it's peak in nyc*
What rappers in particular do you speak of?