DDG says today’s generation of rappers are better than rappers from back in the day.

[DrexlersFade]

This in a nutshell

I get that two but ten times better that's like Jay saying I was 10x better than Kane but see that was his idol they would never say thet are 10x better than Drake who ironically Jay is his idol but he would never say he 10x times better.

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

He came up with a great way to bring attention to himself

Didn’t mention a specific person nor era yet people jump up for the sake of it

 

[Collateral]

Rappers today are too choppy and can't string together a continuous flow.

Listen to something like Mos Def 'Ms. Fat Booty." Smooth bars, lots of flow....lots of words but telling a story.

Guys these days chop up their lyrics so that they turn a 150 word paragraph into a 4 minute song. Halting and choppy.

This speaks to your point

 

[Collateral]

Double

 

[spliz]

@spliz

I disagree with you. I compared the rappers over the years to show that they got more technical with their writing as time went on and stayed relevant because they evolved with the times. I also think 15-20 years is far back enough. I'm sure I can find plenty of wack rappers from the 90s too to compare to what's popular today. Bar for bar flow for flow I know Durk rap better than MC Hammer and he was the first rapper to go Diamond. Then there's Vanilla Ice and Marky Mark that I can remember about. I'm sure Jack Harlow raps better than them even though I don't listen to them. There's plenty of Mcs that were vets in the early 2000s that were considered lyrical back then that rap today switching flows within versus, using more internal rhyme schemes, and substituting simalies for metaphors.

I tried to match artists experience in the early 2000s with today's examples and songs that had similar content. MBY now has been rapping for about 8 years which is how long TI was with Trap Muzik. Country Grammer and The Box were both Nelly and Roddy Rich debut singles.

The only person that I can think of off the top of my head that was rapping back in the mid 90s then and still does it is Method Man and you can see that he changed his rhyme patterns and metaphors to the way people rap today. Meth on On Brind Da Pain to Meth on Lemon from last year. Meth rhyme patterns, wordplay, and metaphors are on a higher level than what he did one Bring the Pain. Id rather listen to Bring the Pain if I had to choose.

My point to begin with is that it's harder to internally rhyme and use metaphors that have double meaning. So from a technical standpoint the bar has been raised although I don't believe that makes someone a better rapper overall.

The average rapper then was a better emcee than Hammer. Hammer got huge cause it was easily palatable to white people and non hip hop listeners and very flamboyant. Hip Hop in general was like the opposite around that time. A lot of these nikkas these days have a hard time staying on track as far as rhyme schemes, flow and subject matter. The average rapper now ain’t spittin a bunch of metaphors n all that extra shyt. I actually listen to a lot of these new nikkas. Im not bout to be giving them extra credit for no reason. Rappers rapped better on average in the 90s because the actual raps mattered more. Simple as that. shyt the overall complex rappers even back then didn’t go far for lack of being able to make music that connects. Look at Canibus. But on the flip side. The best rappers out the 90s >>>>>>>. U talking about Meth. His style was WAY better in the 90s even tho he can be more technical now. But he already had a foundation. He’s FROM that. That’s the difference. MOST of the most lyrical and well put together rappers in the game are all 30+. Saying rappers are 10x better now is false and stupid. No way. Especially when a lot of the best rappers now came from or grew up on that era.

 

[Ya Sinning Mane]

Are you trolling?

He got some lil Wayne in him when he rappity rap.it ain’t gonna wow u or nothing but he can go when he wants

see the eternal stake album for more.

 

[LevelUp]

Nahhhhhh

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

This speaks to your point

Producers and sound engineers are absolutely carrying this generation

 

[TripleAgent]

Who?

I can post mid ass songs from BIG, Pac, Nas, Jay, DMX, Scarface, etc that’s better than the best songs of any modern rapper not named Kendrick or J Coleor Drake

 

[DrexlersFade]

Producers and sound engineers are absolutely carrying this generation

Bruh talk to them

 

[Still Benefited]

@Still Benefited that's why I said only from a technical standpoint. I'm sorry if you didn't follow the original message since I can't insert quotes on this site. DMX is one of my favorite rappers not because he was technical but because you connected to his songs emotionally. BTW I'm saying technical not technically I think that might be tripping you guys up.

I understood,Im just refusing to give these rappers extra credit of having a more "complex" flow on average because 90% of them used a severely watered down version of the Migos flow. Now prime Migos were dope as hell and I always gave them their propers.

What your doing would be like me gathering all the 2000's east coast mixtape rappers who were watered down Big L's/Fabolouses/Styles P's. And using them to debate how technically skilled that era was.

But those mixtape rappers was filler nikkas
Imagine if it was so easy to start rapping from home back in the day

Your basically giving "filler" rappers of today credit for the fact they are able to make themselves heard. It gives the appearance its more technical rappers just because they have the luxury of using the internet to grab your ear. But do you realize how many Brotha Lynch Hungs,Crooked I's were underground that never got to grab anybodys ear?

 

[ThatTruth777]

I mean alright, prove it though.

 

[Duke Dixon]

@Still Benefited I was only giving only using top charting artists like Moneybagg Yo on Said Sum when he reached 17 on the Billboard Charts and Roddy Rich who reached 1 with the Box. Thinking about it more I think MBY is close to the way Ludacris used to rap than TI but his content is closer to TI so that might be a bad example.

Funny you talked about the mixtape rappers I got 4 guys in mind, that rap right now, that I feel like took the strengths of the premiere mixtape rappers to another level with rhyming, flow, and metaphores. The reason why I feel like they haven't reached the success of the 2000s mixtape rappers at the top is because they don't have the kind of backing that those guys had with producing radio singles and albums. The Jadakiss of today isn't working with the Scott Storch of today and mainstream has slid in another lane so these guys are being left out. One of the names was going to be Ransom who was with them in the 2000s but he reinvinted himself in the past couple years into a whole other monster and its a shame that he isn't rewarded the same way the guys in the past were. All these guys are over 30 which what the other brother pointed out though but they've been competitive in their 20s.

I can't link videos on mobile or desktop on the site right now. Can anyone help with that? I still can't quote people either

 

[Taadow]

I agree from a technical standpoint. Even the veteran rappers rap better, from a technical standpoint, than they did when they first came out. The shift was what mainstream music listeners wanted to hear and that effects how much money an artist receives for real producers, not just beat makers.

A good example is battle rap. In the early 2000s delivery on a beat and punch lines meant you were better than who you were up against. Cassidy could have went 2000-0 with his formula back then. Today the better battle rapper is judged by rhyme schemes and entendres which are technically more difficult than delivery and punches.

Fucc that chit.

When you rapping you supposed to rock on (might I add “Baby Bubba”) to the boogie, the bang bang -
the rhythm of the boogie, the beat.

That’s literally the first thing anybody learned about how to rap.

If there ain’t no beat to catch, a Muthafucca is just talking.
People rhyme while talking by accident, so that ain’t the business.

 

[Still Benefited]

@Still Benefited I was only giving only using top charting artists like Moneybagg Yo on Said Sum when he reached 17 on the Billboard Charts and Roddy Rich who reached 1 with the Box. Thinking about it more I think MBY is close to the way Ludacris used to rap than TI but his content is closer to TI so that might be a bad example.

Funny you talked about the mixtape rappers I got 4 guys in mind, that rap right now, that I feel like took the strengths of the premiere mixtape rappers to another level with rhyming, flow, and metaphores. The reason why I feel like they haven't reached the success of the 2000s mixtape rappers at the top is because they don't have the kind of backing that those guys had with producing radio singles and albums. The Jadakiss of today isn't working with the Scott Storch of today and mainstream has slid in another lane so these guys are being left out. One of the names was going to be Ransom who was with them in the 2000s but he reinvinted himself in the past couple years into a whole other monster and its a shame that he isn't rewarded the same way the guys in the past were. All these guys are over 30 which what the other brother pointed out though but they've been competitive in their 20s.

I can't link videos on mobile or desktop on the site right now. Can anyone help with that? I still can't quote people either

Thats kind of a good point,there are lyrical dudes now. And they do get pushed to the background. But the ones I hear mostly sound like poor mans versions of somebody I already heard. But ill give you that point,lyricist are drowned out by all the nonsense being pushed out thats popular. So its alot more bullshyt to sift through in this era. But back in the day you could miss out on great artist just due to lack of access. And the regional divide of hiphop back in the day as far as style and sounds. If rap still had that regional seperation,more people would flat out not like these new styles. Because every region would have its own thing. It was rare air if your style was accepted and beloved nationally by all regions.

People thought Jeezy was trash,Pac was basic,Jayz was corny