Deal Reached to Reopen Government (For Three Weeks)

Reece

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No one lost their checks because the shutdown didn't last long enough for people to be set back as long as this shutdown.

That’s a lie. Just stop lying already :mjlol:

During the shutdown, approximately 800,000 federal employees were indefinitely furloughed, and another 1.3 million were required to report to work without known payment dates. Only those government services deemed "excepted" under the Antideficiency Act were continued; and only those employees deemed "excepted" continued to report to work.[2] The previous U.S. federal government shutdown was in 1995–96.[3][4] The 16-day-long shutdown of October 2013 was the third-longest government shutdown in U.S. history, after the 35-day 2018–2019 shutdown and the 21-day 1995–96 shutdown.

And the janitors and cafeteria workers didn’t give two shyts about the good fight the Dems was fighting :mjlol:
 
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Did you even read what you just posted.

NOWHERE IN THAT ENTIRE ARTICLE DOES IT SAY THE REPUBLICANS SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT. NOWHERE.

The Republicans were defunding Obamacare, they had control of the House and they wouldn’t raise the debt limit out of spite. Both things the Democrats had problems with. Why would THEY shut down the government?
The Republicans refused to raise the debt ceiling. They shutdown the government so they can force a defunding on ACA. Obama said he would veto such a bill.

The longer you go on the, the more idiotic you look.
 

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That’s a lie. Just stop lying already. Them janitors ain’t give two shyts about the good fight them Dems was fighting :mjlol:

During the shutdown, approximately 800,000 federal employees were indefinitely furloughed, and another 1.3 million were required to report to work without known payment dates. Only those government services deemed "excepted" under the Antideficiency Act were continued; and only those employees deemed "excepted" continued to report to work.[2] The previous U.S. federal government shutdown was in 1995–96.[3][4] The 16-day-long shutdown of October 2013 was the third-longest government shutdown in U.S. history, after the 35-day 2018–2019 shutdown and the 21-day 1995–96 shutdown.
16 days is just within one payment period.

work without known payment dates.


Work without known payment dates. Not that they missed their paychecks

Once again, the longer you go on, the more idiotic you look.
 

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So you're doing the loan? :scusthov: If so, you're basically giving away money
Nah I filed on like the 4th. I use an online software TaxAct and I always file early and I've gotten my refund on the first day the last 3 years. I have a pretty straight forward return though no kids , standard deduction, and a couple education deductions/credits
 

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Nah I filed on like the 4th. I use an online software TaxAct and I always file early and I've gotten my refund on the first day the last 3 years. I have a pretty straight forward return though no kids , standard deduction, and a couple education deductions/credits
was filing taxes quicker then usual? how is it different now?
 

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Here is the situation. Democrats this time around passed a clean funding bill to open up the government. The Republicans, once again, forced a shutdown by adding unrelated stipulations for political points. They did this in 2013 and they did this in 2018-2019, by Mcconnell not allowing a vote on bills that had bipartisan support to come to the floor because instead of being 1/3 of co-equal parts of the government he decided to cede the government to the President thus making it effectively a 2 branch government.

One side says, we simply want to fund the government as always. Another side says we don't care if people go without pay, we have things to prove back to our voters back home, usually bullshyt the majority people don't want such as defunding ACA and not raising the debt ceiling and a stupid wall.

One side wants the government and people to get back to work and another one doesn't. Its a very simple situation.
 
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This HONKEY in here mad denna bytch that his White daddy just got humiliated :heh:


Your wall failed... Your leader failed... My tax dollars won't be going to that moron sorry :umad:
so corny...be mad at me cause I'm asking for something in return instead of talking points....but I'm sure you'll be in the next voting thread talmbowt how others vote against their best interest. Typical fool
 

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Exactly. How did Obama shut down the government? This was a demand that the republicans created in order to fund the government. They tried to hold the federal workers hostage in order to defund the Affordable Care Act. A law that was passed by Congress and survived legal challenge with the Supreme Court. Obama did not demand anything in order to keep the government open, so how is this the same thing?

The Republicans refused to raise the debt ceiling. They shutdown the government so they can force a defunding on ACA. Obama said he would veto such a bill.

The longer you go on the, the more idiotic you look.

Bullshyt. Stop trying to twist things to suit your argument. It was a shutdown prompted by BOTH sides :umad: and I don’t recall people saying he was stopping people from paying their mortgage :mjlol: he could’ve easily fell back on Obamacare and the Debt Limit discussions or he could’ve passed Obamacare when the Democrats controlled both houses but he waited until the Republicans got in office to try to bring it to the floor and people had to go two weeks without pay :mjcry: but since he’s the good guy on the right side, it’s okay :heh:

Republicans, primarily in the House, aimed to defund Obamacare. None of the 12 regular appropriation bills to pay for government operations had been passed. A group of 80 House Republicans signed a letter to House Speaker John Boehner saying this was the time to eliminate any dollars that would allow Obamacare to move forward.

Before the shutdown, Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., warned that a shutdown would be a bad idea and in any event wouldn’t block most of Obamacare from moving forward.

We rated that claim Mostly True. Most key parts of the law – the insurance marketplace, the premium subsidies, and the taxes and regulations – would continue unimpeded.

But if Obamacare was one rallying cry, the debt ceiling turned out to be just as important. The government was closing in on the legal limit of $16.699 trillion in debt. Without the flexibility to borrow more, Washington faced the prospect of not being able to pay back Treasury notes as they came due. Republicans wanted broader spending cuts in exchange for raising the debt limit.

At the time, Republicans controlled the House, and Democrats held the Senate. Obama had said he would veto any bill that defunded Obamacare. His veto threat and the Democratic-controlled Senate doomed any measure that undermined the fledgling health care program.

The House passed several bills that eliminated Obamacare funding, and the Senate kept stripping out those provisions.

The government shutdown began on Oct. 1. On Oct. 15, the rating agency Fitch said the U.S. government’s credit worthiness would be reviewed. A downgrade would have dramatically increased borrowing costs.

On Oct. 16, Senate Democrats and Republicans came to terms, agreeing to raise the debt ceiling and keep government open through mid December. Obamacare funding was untouched.
 

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was filing taxes quicker then usual? how is it different now?
Seemed the same from my end. Like i said I've used the same software for the last 3 years and it auto fills most of my info I just have to update my earnings, taxes, and school expenses, and then hit file. I did get less but I also paid less in taxes this year
 

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Bullshyt. Stop trying to twist things to suit your argument. It was a shutdown prompted by BOTH sides :umad: and I don’t recall people saying he was stopping people from paying their mortgage :mjlol: he could’ve easily fell back on Obamacare and the Debt Limit discussions or he could’ve passed Obamacare when the Democrats controlled both houses but he waited until the Republicans got in office to try to bring it to the floor and people had to go two weeks without pay :mjcry: but since he’s the good guy on the right side, it’s okay :heh:

So now you just outed yourself as unemployed in addition to being stupid. No one gets paid on a daily basis. Most people get paid on a biweekly (2 weeks, just within the time period of the 2013 shutdown) or on a monthly basis.

So once again, I'm not twisting the argument. Just stating the facts. The current shutdown lasted 35 days just long enough to miss two periods of pay or a monthly payment while 16 days, at least workers didn't have a concern they were not going to be paid once a two week pay period arrived. If you don't see the difference you're dense.

Secondly, again, Democrats during this shutdown and what Obama asked for in 2013 was simply to fund the government. Nothing else. AKA, pay government workers and avoid the shyt show we just saw. Only one side, in both situations, decided they wanted to hold these people hostage for their own political gain. No matter how many smilies and failures at reading comprehension will change this fact.

Also Republicans were robbing peter to pay paul in a "who is hurt" context. Republicans wanted Obama to sacrifice millions of people who will be positively impacted by ACA implementation to save the government workers. I.E. fukk someone someway somehow. Luckily they lost that deal and everyone won in the end.
 

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16 days is just within one payment period.

work without known payment dates.


Work without known payment dates. Not that they missed their paychecks

Once again, the longer you go on, the more idiotic you look.

Like I said you’re a hypocrite. Youre okay with shyt as long as it’s somebody you like doing it. “But it wasnt that long” ass nikka. fukking hypocrite. 16 days is a check. Somebody living check to check can’t miss ONE CHECK you nut ass nikka :heh:
 

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Nah I filed on like the 4th. I use an online software TaxAct and I always file early and I've gotten my refund on the first day the last 3 years. I have a pretty straight forward return though no kids , standard deduction, and a couple education deductions/credits

You may have filed on the 4th but tax season doesn't start until the 28th so it wasn't processed. I highly doubt you will get a direct deposit on the day tax season starts.

And I use tax act as well.
 

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He was going to have to cave regardless. Polls showed Trump was to blame. He had no choice. I guarantee if the Democrats were to blame, Trump would've got his funding.
Let's hope voters have long memories.

If I don't move, I'm voting against one of my reps that voted against ending the shutdown.
 

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You may have filed on the 4th but tax season doesn't start until the 28th so it wasn't processed. I highly doubt you will get a direct deposit on the day tax season starts.

And I use tax act as well.
Nah i just checked the IRS wheres my refund website It's for sure. It's happened the past 3 years mine is always sent early to the IRS for testing the system or something
 
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