Mirrors was 8 minutes long and was the #2 song In the country.
I think he knows what he's doing
I think he knows what he's doing
Dear Justin Timberlake: A Seven Minute Song is Not a Single
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I enjoyed 20/20 but Timbo/Justin's "sound" is getting played. More producers + boundary/envelope pushing is needed. Everything the two do together now sounds like a conglomeration of nice basslines, 808s, complex "snares" and hiccups, burps & space farts with random timbo ad-libs and beatboxes, and Justin playing second fiddle to all that by singing over it.....all coming together to make a unique....but played....very played sound from him.
Part 2 should NOT be more of the same, it should be.........different. I think if he went for an old-school "ballad" feel...or even better, creating a new sound all together, it would make both parts of the 20/20 Experience live up to the title.
Part 2 should NOT be more of the same, it should be.........different. I think if he went for an old-school "ballad" feel...or even better, creating a new sound all together, it would make both parts of the 20/20 Experience live up to the title.
Eh, who is in his lane?
He's been shytting on the competition too hard since with his past 2 albums, he's too ahead of the competition. Usher used to exhibit the same shyt but fell the fukk of after confessions.
If we look at pure r&b/soul and not pop which he's nominated under for some reason, I'd say the only ones fukking with him today are the ones that people hold extremely high in Frank Ocean and Miguel, which both ended the year with their albums on all top lists specially Ocean. And listening to their albums, it's nothing standard, no radio targeting, no trend following and on.
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Yes. Just like people make short songs for the fukk of it.
He's saying fukk your pop-rules. If the song is dope it's dope, you don't need to follow the safe standard procedure as long as shyt is dope.
The average song on his last album was 7 minutes.
If there's one thing I hate most about criticism towards music is the criticism regarding cats not following standard procedure and claiming that someone is "trying to hard". What the fukk does that even mean? Trying what too hard? Trying too hard to make long songs? Most of it is production outros. The radio version will probably be 5 minutes.
Like Mirrors.
8:05 (album version)
4:37 (radio edit)
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lmfao hes nominated under pop because thats what he is...and in that lane he is neither terribly inventive or visionary.
MikeBrownsJob
Seattle fan since 2013 *deal with it slime*
honest criticisms and I agree 100 percent.He's dominated the genre and being the only pushing force since 2002. Every album he's made has influenced not just pop but r&b and other genres as well. A lot of it thanks to the producers of course.
Who else are men over 16 checking for in mainstream pop? One Direction? Justin Bieber? Lady Gaga? Katy Perry? Kesha? Nicki Minaj?
Michael Jackson was the last person, shyt has been dead for above teenagers since his days.
And his last album was far from pop, Mirrors was the only pop song.
He's pop like Michael Jackson was pop, but his last album was his "Off the wall" which was far from a pop album.
o you meant strictly mainstream. I guess he is the best their is to offer or close to it. which is just indicative of how shytty that genre is in general
His production completely carries him as well.
Mainstream pop is not the same genre as indie pop, so yes.o you meant strictly mainstream. I guess he is the best their is to offer or close to it. which is just indicative of how shytty that genre is in general
His production completely carries him as well.
You can't compare Justin Timberlake to Avi Buffalo, Lykke Li, Panda Bear, XX or Beach House etc.
And I think the relevant reviews speak for themselves, he's a great ass artist. Even though some might still hate him for his past.
I don't know how anyone can't fukk 20/20 experience, makes people like Robin Thicke look like amateurs.
Its aight man but I really don't listen to shyt music just because its mainstream or popular. If I think JT or any pop artist is inferior to what I can find on the indie circuit why listen to him? You comparing him to garbage like thicke, bieber, etc. when I'm thinking pop I'm comparing him to an entirely higher caliber of talent and musicality, which what I tend to do across all genres. If one retorts by saying "hes the best doing it right now" and I'm not feeling it I have no problem going back and listening to superior products released in the past. Good music is good music though regardless of whatever stipulations and genre we place on it though. I just tend to find JT boring when he isn't attempting to recreate cry me a river, as mirrors is a phenomenal song. Hes not pushing shyt forward...he's so charismatic and polished it seems that way.
If JT didn't have such the push he did very few would laud him as this savior. If he wasn't a former boy band cat (which I don't fault him for at all but lets be honest) He would not get half of the exposure he does if strictly based on music. I think he would be reach sayyyyy James Blake or so levels of fame. But the fact he odes have the machine behind makes it seem like everything he does is more pivotal than it really is. 20/20 is a coo album, but redefining pop and all this other shyt you saying? naw I'm not seeing it. I've heard that type of production many times before with better vocalist to boot. Hes just at the forefront. nothign more nothing less.
Who is the other boy band member delivering now again? He was Nsync. It's like saying Michael wouldn't be anything without Jackson 5. No one gets strictly famous of just dropping dope music, cause "dope music" is subjective. There's a lot more people who find Justin Bieber dope than people who find your example James Blake dope. That's why reviews and awards etc are important to let the supporters of weak music know that they support weak music. And Justin gets great ass reviews and mad awards. He's smart outside the booth, he's smart in the booth, he knows how to make hits, knows which producers to work with to sell and make good music, knows which people to get with, how to promote his albums, how to move in the commercial world and on.
He's not the best doing it now, he's been the best since his debut album.
And he's pushing shyt forwards, if you follow pop music you would know. I don't think people who work with music daily claim this, just for the fukk of it. The reason to why you can't compare him to indie pop, is cause indie pop is a completely different genre from commercial pop.
Anyway I don't come on the coli to discuss non-hiphop/sports issues.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
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Damn, I wish I coulda seen Justin's face when he heard Blurred Lines. Must have burned his soul slow knowing he can't make a hit like that lol
Of course he has talent. he was the band. But thats what I meant. That furor that BAND created carried his talent where as the others were simply not close to him. that doesn't detract from me saying he owes much of his exposure that. Also its bizarre out of that whole reponse that facet is the thing you wanted to key on lol.