"Death to the Pessimistic State of Mind" - Nas Voice: NYK '23 Pre-Season Thread

[Ironman]

He will, but do you deploy your financial freedom on essentially a Clint capella clone?

Unless we can trade Julius

Are you putting your bets Black Airforce Sims then?

 

[Ironman]

I essentially agree, and it's not a knock on Mitch, just the reality of paying non-Jokic/Embiid bigs.

If this team looked like a competent top four seed then you almost have to keep things intact and go for it, but I'm not sure they can justify it now given all the uncertainty and with how much of an anchor that Randle contract looks like

There's only 2 of them

 

[K-Deini]

Are you putting your bets Black Airforce Sims then?

I'm putting my bets on not becoming a habitual play in team. Which is exactly what will happen if we use all our flexibility on a rim runner. He's a final piece. Problem is we need multiple pieces. If there's a way you can unload randle/noel/fournier. Sure, sign mitch. But that's not happening.

 

[RickyGQ]

It's gonna suck for sure...but I can't even blame him. He's 100% right. We always talk about him needing to show more on offense, but we don't even give him opportunities to do that. It would probably look ugly, but I'd love to see them feed him every now and again when he gets early, deep post position. Run a play for him every now and again. Same with Obi.

He rarely gets the ball when we run pick and rolls… it’s depressing. Then there’s shyt like this:

 

[RickyGQ]

I'm putting my bets on not becoming a habitual play in team. Which is exactly what will happen if we use all our flexibility on a rim runner. He's a final piece. Problem is we need multiple pieces. If there's a way you can unload randle/noel/fournier. Sure, sign mitch. But that's not happening.

80 is absurd. But I think he’s worth 50-60 million.

 

[Wargames]

He rarely gets the ball when we run pick and rolls… it’s depressing. Then there’s shyt like this:

Like it’s fukk Thibs but this FO is a joke too that fat pig face Dolan can’t just hire a regular GM because he’s a fukking idiot

 

[Wargames]

Haven’t resigned a rookie to a second contract since Charlie Ward.

 

[storyteller]

They couldn’t get a trade for him? SmH

Even a playoff team would have paid something like a late first to make a championship run

They tried, Thibodeau wasn't with it.

Knicks not trading Mitchell Robinson comes with offseason risk

Four teams went after Knicks center Mitchell Robinson at Thursday’s trade deadline, including the Bulls and Pistons, according to an NBA source.

Ultimately the Knicks pulled back, didn’t make any trades and now risk losing their longest-tenured player as an unrestricted free agent this July.

According to the source, two of the teams who had contacted the Knicks about Robinson got the impression they will lose him if he becomes an unrestricted free agent this summer.


The source said the relationship between Robinson and the Knicks currently isn’t on firm ground.

The Bulls were intrigued by Robinson, according to the source, because they were looking for another defensive center to go along with Nikola Vucevic as they eye a long playoff push.

The Knicks’ decision to not trade Robinson for assets shows they at least feel Robinson would accept a contract extension if one is offered. They can offer him a extension of five years, $55 million.

Robinson is injury-prone, hasn’t been paid as a starter after signing a four-year, $5.8 million deal as a 2018 second-round pick.

If the Knicks lose Robinson to free agency with no compensation, Knicks president Leon Rose will regret not pulling the trigger, especially if this season results in a lottery berth.

Rose didn’t talk to the media after the trade deadline — leaving his length of silence at nearly five months.

Another NBA executive says Knicks strategist Brock Aller was in favor of trading Robinson as he’s in charge of assets management. Knicks coach Tom Thibodeau, meanwhile, is believed to be a big fan of Robinson and perhaps he won out.


Aller actually called the Pistons and offered a complex package. The Knicks were interested in draft picks and also asked about rookie center Isaiah Stewart of Rochester. The Pistons weren’t willing to deal Stewart.

In Portland on Saturday, Robinson had one of his strangest games. He picked up three fouls early and wound up not logging a rebound. He scored two points in 14 minutes before leaving with an ankle sprain in the third quarter.

Robinson tweeted after the heartbreaking loss when the Knicks blew a 23-point lead: “Can’t speak for everyone but I gotta hold myself accountable to play at a high level every night. Tonight I was too relaxed and had no urgency. I sold.”

At a morning shootaround in Utah last Monday, Robinson was given several opportunities to say he wanted to remain a Knick long term. Instead, the 7-footer said it’s all in his agent’s hands. Thad Foucher of the Wasserman Group is repping Robinson now — his fifth agent.

The Pistons, Bulls, Mavs and his hometown Pelicans should each have interest this summer. One person close to Robinson said the Louisiana native would be interested in the returning to the Bayou State.

This tracks with a lot of what we've heard and some of the other rumors (multiple Centers in trade talks). I also don't think it's a coincidence that Jericho Sims shot into the rotation right after the break. They need to figure out how close to replacement level he can conceivably get to help inform offseason decisions. If I'm not mistaken, an offseason sign and trade would still be possible but I've got to double-check.

 

[Wargames]

They tried, Thibodeau wasn't with it.

Knicks not trading Mitchell Robinson comes with offseason risk



This tracks with a lot of what we've heard and some of the other rumors (multiple Centers in trade talks). I also don't think it's a coincidence that Jericho Sims shot into the rotation right after the break. They need to figure out how close to replacement level he can conceivably get to help inform offseason decisions. If I'm not mistaken, an offseason sign and trade would still be possible but I've got to double-check.

Thibs is the fukking worst

What a fukking mess, if he’s not signing the extension you trade him, but Thibs intervened?

 

[JMurder]

Thibs is the fukking worst

What a fukking mess, if he’s not signing the extension you trade him, but Thibs intervened?

Thibs can't intervene. He has a voice and Leon or Perry took him into consideration over Brock Aller. The problem is it you're giving Thibs that much of a voice then you have to get some sort of deal done that doesn't handicap you and if u can't then you trade anyway

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Haven’t resigned a rookie to a second contract since Charlie Ward.

This can’t be right

 

[RickyGQ]

We SHOULD be celebrating RJ like the league has been celebrating Ja but noooooooo…

 

[N.Y. State of Mind]

He rarely gets the ball when we run pick and rolls… it’s depressing. Then there’s shyt like this:

Now that's infuriating.

 

[storyteller]

Fam...

 

[Ironman]

Deuce not getting minutes until the last 2 minutes when we're getting blown out already