Debate: Suicide By Cop is a BS term

Is "Suicide by cop" a real thing?

  • Yes, it exists

    Votes: 4 26.7%
  • Yes it exists but is overused

    Votes: 5 33.3%
  • No, suicide by cop does not exist

    Votes: 6 40.0%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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Audemar

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I fail to see the problem here.

Expanding the definition by saying "suicide by cop" means that cops lack some sort of role in the situation by trying to soften that interaction
I would love to see a group of officers try to reason with an armed man, wishing to incite a suicide by cop scenario, who randomly opened fired at them. I imagine it going so well. :mjlol:
 

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Who said cops can't shoot back or defend themselves?

But how is that a suicide?
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You smart dumb nikkas, I swear. :russ:You got it breh.
 

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You smart dumb nikkas, I swear. :russ:You got it breh.
A cop shoots you.

How is that a suicide?

This is the problem here. The phrase "suicide by cop" is SHEER propaganda to add additional blame to the suspect.

Yes, cops MAY (and often do) shoot back...but thats not suicide because you're not the one killing yourself.
 

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The fact cops CHOOSE to shoot someone means its not suicide, no matter how much of a defensive action it is.

Suicide is the act of killing oneself, taking action against ones life.

The cop making a choice is irrelevant to the act being considered suicide. The fact that someone willing ended their life is the only thing that defines suicide. Options vary.
 

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So I guess being a nikka in America can be seen as "suicide by blackness"?
 

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Suicide is the act of killing oneself, taking action against ones life.
by this notion, being black talking to cops is suicidal :stopitslime:

The cop making a choice is irrelevant to the act being considered suicide. The fact that someone willing ended their life is the only thing that defines suicide. Options vary.

The measure that ended someone's life determine's suicide.

Just because cops are likely to shoot back doesn't make it suicide
 

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A cop shoots you.

How is that a suicide?

This is the problem here. The phrase "suicide by cop" is SHEER propaganda to add additional blame to the suspect.

Yes, cops MAY (and often do) shoot back...but thats not suicide because you're not the one killing yourself.
But, did the cop shoot the person without being incited? Had that same individual also expressed a desire to commit suicide? If those two questions are answered by a "yes," then it's a suicide by cop scenario. Not everything is propaganda breh and in a suicide by cop scenario, there are no suspects, only victims.

by this notion, being black talking to cops is suicidal :stopitslime:
Again, prior expressed desire to commit suicide before inciting a cop, which isn't the same as White cop vs Black male situations, since it seems that's what you're going for.
 

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Just say this: The cops killed the suspect.

End it.
but ending it like that isn't highlighting the whole situation, if I purposely throw myself in front of a speeding train and all you tell people is that I was hit by a train it causes confusion.
 

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But, did the cop shoot the person without being incited? Had that same individual also expressed a desire to commit suicide? If those two questions are answered by a "yes," then it's a suicide by cop scenario. Not everything is propaganda breh and in a suicide by cop scenario, there are no suspects, only victims.
Seems like you've bought into the propaganda. The phrase is VERY new and has only come up because cops need a way to alleviate the guilt they have in shoot suspects.

I support cops having the right or ability to use lethal force, just don't cover it in word soup.

Again, prior expressed desire to commit suicide before inciting a cop, which isn't the same as White cop vs Black male situations, since it seems that's what you're going for.

So?

Desire doesn't match the outcome.

Not all suicidal people meet their goals and if someone gets shot by cops, I don't see anyone calling it an attempted suicide by cop.
 

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but ending it like that isn't highlighting the whole situation, if I purposely throw myself in front of a speeding train and all you tell people is that I was hit by a train it causes confusion.

Thats different.

Trains operate in a singular dimension: Forward or backwards. And often its technically impossible for a human to stop the immediacy of such an interaction.

Cops, even when "reacting" in self-defense, CHOOSE to shoot.
 

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You can believe whatever you breh. I can write a suicide letter with my intentions, tape it to myself, then go out and open fire on cops, thereby inciting them to use deadly force against me. Or, I can go out and open fire on cops for fun and then get killed in the process. One is suicide by the cop, the other isn't. I can't break it down any simpler; not everything is propaganda.
 
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