Debate: You can't be pro-black and religious

[Brofato]

Yes. This is my point.

1980s.

If that's your point then it's a ridiculous and idiotic one to make.

Going by your logic, and if there's some sort of fallacy I'm making here I'm sure you'll point it out, you can't have a wife and be pro-black. You can't have children and be pro-black.

You can't do anything unless you dedicate yourself entirely to your cause less you be painted as someone who didn't do as much as they could have.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT CHURCH FINANCES. WHO DO YOU THINK FUNDS SOUP KITCHENS, HOMELESS SHELTERS, AND COMMUNITY OUT REACH?

I don't give a fukk. You don't need to believe in a god to do that.

LOOK ON CHARITY NAVIGATOR AND SEE WHAT CHARITIES RANK AT THE TOP. ALL CHURCH RUN. SHRINERS, SALVATION ARMY, ST JUDE.

Do you think I give a fukk? Where does anything about "god existing" have to do with this?

CHURCHES HAVE BEEN THE BACKBONE OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH SINGLE FOREVER. YOU WOULD KNOW THAT IF YOU EVER VOLUNTEERED FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN CHURCH BASICALLY.

Where does "god" come in here?

I TAKE OFFENSE TO YOUR COMMENTS BECAUSE I DO VOLUNTEER REGULARLY AND ALL I SEE ARE CHURCHES AND THEIR MEMBERS. YOU KNOW WHO I DON'T SEE? PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

I volunteer regularly as well, but i can not support any organization that holds "religious ideology" over the heads of the less fortunate

Its ideological extortion.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The world doesn't and will never work the way you want it to work. Get over it and move on.

Too bad. Doesn't mean its not immune from criticism.

Then again, you believe in a deity anyways so I can't expect better from you.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Instead of cutting out God, why not cut out other unproductive activities that facilitate anti progress for black people. Instead of clubbing, trying to find a woman to mate with for the evening, stay home and do your studies. Instead of watching pointless ball games, stay home and do your studies. Instead of watching television, engage in your studies. There are many avenues that people waste their time traveling that need to be eliminated before you demons can even THINK of bringing beef to Gods door, friends. Nice try though. Now go somewhere and pray.

/Thread

Demons just took the L of the century

says nothing about whether or not your god exists.

 

[Poitier]

Too bad. Doesn't mean its not immune from criticism.

Then again, you believe in a deity anyways so I can't expect better from you.

You will learn that the world is illogical and immaterial one day

 

[concise]

And yet ... Jews.
And those Christian white Americans into white supremacy.


:leostare'

 

[Thsnnor]

As a black american my stance here matters more than my stance anywhere else. Deal with that if you want.

The same black American stance that caused you to say you were not black on a message board to people you owe nothing to? Your evaluation process is already biased. Am I more pro black than you cause I've never denied being black? Can't judge religion till to take a more serious evaluation of yourself.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Its so sickening how atheists come along at the 9th inning trying to act like they've been some major players in the progress of black people in America. We all know its the believers who have done the vast majority of the work while atheists have just sat back telling everyone what they shouldnt be doing, while actually doing NOTHING!

Whos feeding more people, black atheists, or black churches.
Whos helping the community more, black atheists or black churches
Whos providing more fellowship among citizens to discuss the ills of the world that demoralize and set up on the path toward oblivions, atheists or black churches
Whos cares more about black people, atheists or the black church

Just stop. Atheists have no love in them for much of anything outside of themselves which is why they seek to find glory for their work, for themselves. Just knock it off like a fly on your hand.

baynard rustin, a phillip randolph, and WEB dubois want a word with you

And its INCREDIBLY hilarious black churches want credit for doing shyt you don't need "god" to do in the first place.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The same black American stance that caused you to say you were not black on a message board to people you owe nothing to? Your evaluation process is already biased. Am I more pro black than you cause I've never denied being black? Can't judge religion till to take a more serious evaluation of yourself.

You support an ideology that calls for your willfuly submission to a set of concepts long since debunked.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT CHURCH FINANCES. WHO DO YOU THINK FUNDS SOUP KITCHENS, HOMELESS SHELTERS, AND COMMUNITY OUT REACH?

LOOK ON CHARITY NAVIGATOR AND SEE WHAT CHARITIES RANK AT THE TOP. ALL CHURCH RUN. SHRINERS, SALVATION ARMY, ST JUDE.

CHURCHES HAVE BEEN THE BACKBONE OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH SINCE FOREVER. YOU WOULD KNOW THAT IF YOU EVER VOLUNTEERED FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN CHURCH BASHING.

I TAKE OFFENSE TO YOUR COMMENTS BECAUSE I DO VOLUNTEER REGULARLY AND ALL I SEE ARE CHURCHES AND THEIR MEMBERS. YOU KNOW WHO I DON'T SEE? PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

HEEL HEEL HEEEEEL

BODYBAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

If that's your point then it's a ridiculous and idiotic one to make.

Maybe if you disagree, but I refuse to keep ignoring the role religious thinking has in the black community.

Its used as a means of easing tension, not resolving matters.

Going by your logic, and if there's some sort of fallacy I'm making here I'm sure you'll point it out, you can't have a wife and be pro-black. You can't have children and be pro-black.

None of this makes sense.

Black success in america is harmed by religiosity.

You can't do anything unless you dedicate yourself entirely to your cause less you be painted as someone who didn't do as much as they could have.

And you know this, how?

 

[Matt504]

I say its a TERRIBLY bad thing and I don't think ignoring that helps anyone.

and religion does not nor should it never trump ANY sort of black movement. The fact that it does utterly disgusts me at times.

Community leaders should not bear the title "reverend" or use some drawn out trumped up "theological" assertion to defend their legitimacy to speak on our behalf.

I hate it to its very core. hate it.

just as much as you hate the system of white supremacy, but the reality is the reality, fighting to get Black people away from religion is like ice skating uphill, in lieu of that, we still need to make use of these people or our enemies will, and they have been doing so successfully for a very long time.

Tyler Perry's movies are disgusting and his target audience is older Black women, they bring him tons and tons of money which Tyler can then use to build Black schools, "buy politicians", or whatever else. there are hundreds of millions of Black dollars RIGHT NOW that can be used to get us into a better position, but those dollars are going every direction except to us, because the people taking our money understand how powerful we could be if we practiced group economics.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

baynard rustin, a phillip randolph, and WEB dubois want a word with you

And its INCREDIBLY hilarious black churches want credit for doing shyt you don't need "god" to do in the first place.

None of those people you mentioned COMBINED have done more for black people then the black church. You're trying to hard, and you sound ridiculous Just have a seat. I know you hate being wrong but you're going to have to take this L and put it in a frame because you friend?


YOU FREAKING LAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCED!

and you know what

I THINK I LIKE IT

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You will learn that the world is illogical and immaterial one day

You came to a message board to bytch about debates.

Classic @Poitier

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

just as much as you hate the system of white supremacy, but the reality is the reality, fighting to get Black people away from religion is like ice skating uphill, in lieu of that, we still need to make use of these people or our enemies will, and they have been doing so successfully for a very long time.

Tyler Perry's movies are disgusting and his target audience is older Black women, they bring him tons and tons of money which Tyler can then use to build Black schools, "buy politicians", or whatever else. there are hundreds of millions of Black dollars RIGHT NOW that can be used to get us into a better position, but those dollars are going every direction except to us, because the people taking our money understand how powerful we could be if we practiced group economics.

So whats wrong with me calling this out?

You agree with me, but just not on the nuances of how to do it.