Debate: You can't be pro-black and religious

Can you be pro-black and religious?

  • No

    Votes: 26 27.7%
  • Yes

    Votes: 63 67.0%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 5 5.3%

  • Total voters
    94

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How can I demand people do be atheists?

I said FOR ME to take them seriously, one of the things on that checklist is not being religious.
So all of the pro black people who have done more for black people than u have EVER done in ur lifetime..need to get a stamp of approval from u by not being religious?..son ur a knucklehead and a fool..and I'm neither religious or atheist...
 

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How can I demand people do be atheists?

I said FOR ME to take them seriously, one of the things on that checklist is not being religious.
Well, that just boils down to your preference then. Unless, a person lives for an atheist approval. Now, one can make the argument that you can't be pro-Black and religious if you hold the belief that Christianity is basically White supremecy. That's an argument that shows that you can't be pro -Black and religious since the two claims would contradict each other. Yours is just your preference.
 
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I have no problem with atheist but if you think all the problems of the world will magically go away if there was no religion, then you are painfully naive about how the world works.

We don't have a religion problem, we have a HUMAN problem.


People who want greed, power, control, etc. Even if there was no religion, they would still find ways yo manipulate people. There are also good religious people who actually do live their lives helping others while doing the best they can to serve their communities as to honor God. These people shouldn't be villified.

As someone who is working on a career to become a scientist, please understand that scientific illiteracy may be rampant in religious communities but it's not much better for nonreligious individuals. I heard some of the most scientifically ignorant statements from nonreligious people who simply refuse to believe otherwise. Alternative medicine nonsense, I heard the government has the cure to cancer and is "hiding it", fluoride is being used to "control" us, genetically modified food is a giant conspiracy, vaccines causes autism and is used to keep us sick, melanin theory, "big pharma" hates natural cures because it actually works and posses a threat to their profits, etc.


Fighting discrimination has to be based on logic, constructive discussions, increasing diversity, accurate data, love and careful reasoning. There are religious people that are ardent antiracist while there are plenty of atheist who hate black people and think they are "genetically inferior". As a black science major back in college, I personally met some really cool atheist who viewed me as an equal that I became great friends with and others atheist who didn't think black people were as intelligent or good as white people therefore black people should be kept away from doing science. I've met christians who were bigger antiracist than me and other christians who thought the "NAACP is an anti-white organization out to destroy the white race". Again, It's not a religious issue, it's a human one. Blaming religion is an intellectual copout. There are some people who are racist white supremacist, they will be racist regardless of their religious preferences. Changing, their religious views won't fix them, changing their views about race WILL. Changing their religious views is only a bandaid over a shotgun wound.

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James Watson is an atheist who is the famous scientist with Francis Crick who discovered the double helix shape of DNA. He is a white supremacist and has openly said believes that black people are "genetically inferior" to the white race and they less intelligent. This is why he is black balled from the scientific community despite contributing such a huge milestone to our scientific process. Stephen Jay Gould was an atheist before he passed away and he was the guy who discovered punctuated equilibrium. He wrote an entire book completely dismantling scientific racism and destroys the argument that black people are "genetically inferior".

Again BOTH of these people are atheist with two radically different views on black people. Please don't get caught up in trying to slander religion that you forget that racism is a HUMAN problem and will need to have a more nuanced approach in order to combat it with REAL solutions, not just feel good anti-theist rhetoric.


Its funny how @Napoleon dodged this post.........Yall must like being trolled......
 

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So all of the pro black people who have done more for black people than u have EVER done in ur lifetime..need to get a stamp of approval from u by not being religious?..son ur a knucklehead and a fool..and I'm neither religious or atheist...
You're religious. I get it.

Just don't expect moving forward to be taken seriously by those who are still worried about monsters under their beds.

Being religious in 2015 is a character flaw and a major chink in one's intellectual toolbox.
 

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I have no problem with atheist but if you think all the problems of the world will magically go away if there was no religion, then you are painfully naive about how the world works.

We don't have a religion problem, we have a HUMAN problem.


People who want greed, power, control, etc. Even if there was no religion, they would still find ways yo manipulate people. There are also good religious people who actually do live their lives helping others while doing the best they can to serve their communities as to honor God. These people shouldn't be villified.

As someone who is working on a career to become a scientist, please understand that scientific illiteracy may be rampant in religious communities but it's not much better for nonreligious individuals. I heard some of the most scientifically ignorant statements from nonreligious people who simply refuse to believe otherwise. Alternative medicine nonsense, I heard the government has the cure to cancer and is "hiding it", fluoride is being used to "control" us, genetically modified food is a giant conspiracy, vaccines causes autism and is used to keep us sick, melanin theory, "big pharma" hates natural cures because it actually works and posses a threat to their profits, etc.


Fighting discrimination has to be based on logic, constructive discussions, increasing diversity, accurate data, love and careful reasoning. There are religious people that are ardent antiracist while there are plenty of atheist who hate black people and think they are "genetically inferior". As a black science major back in college, I personally met some really cool atheist who viewed me as an equal that I became great friends with and others atheist who didn't think black people were as intelligent or good as white people therefore black people should be kept away from doing science. I've met christians who were bigger antiracist than me and other christians who thought the "NAACP is an anti-white organization out to destroy the white race". Again, It's not a religious issue, it's a human one. Blaming religion is an intellectual copout. There are some people who are racist white supremacist, they will be racist regardless of their religious preferences. Changing, their religious views won't fix them, changing their views about race WILL. Changing their religious views is only a bandaid over a shotgun wound.

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James Watson is an atheist who is the famous scientist with Francis Crick who discovered the double helix shape of DNA. He is a white supremacist and has openly said believes that black people are "genetically inferior" to the white race and they less intelligent. This is why he is black balled from the scientific community despite contributing such a huge milestone to our scientific process. Stephen Jay Gould was an atheist before he passed away and he was the guy who discovered punctuated equilibrium. He wrote an entire book completely dismantling scientific racism and destroys the argument that black people are "genetically inferior".

Again BOTH of these people are atheist with two radically different views on black people. Please don't get caught up in trying to slander religion that you forget that racism is a HUMAN problem and will need to have a more nuanced approach in order to combat it with REAL solutions, not just feel good anti-theist rhetoric.

You might as well talk about blacks wearing baggy pants or some other set of things that is easy to criticize so go start that thread.

This thread is about religion in the black community.
 

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as a result of education of what humans learned about the universe. which is the way to do it

This isn't true.

It also had more people.

What does this have to do with your god existing or not?

Try to justify it by education or whatever but you still acknowledge that fact he was right.
 

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You're religious. I get it.

Just don't expect moving forward to be taken seriously by those who are still worried about monsters under their beds.

Being religious in 2015 is a character flaw and a major chink in one's intellectual toolbox.
I'm not religious..there's no chink I'm my intellectual toolbox..I believe that everyone has something to offer mentally..I don't agree with all of atheists views..but I will listen to what they have to say cause maybe I can learn something from one of em..same with people of different religious beliefs...I'm spiritual and I don't conform to any religion...I don't shyt on people's beliefs either..I can say when I was younger I was a little more ignorant..but I've learned a lot from listening and not always being the one who knows everything and feels the need to talk..
 

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I'm not religious..there's no chink I'm my intellectual toolbox..I believe that everyone has something to offer mentally..I don't agree with all of atheists views..but I will listen to what they have to say cause maybe I can learn something from one of em..same with people of different religious beliefs...I'm spiritual and I don't conform to any religion...I don't shyt on people's beliefs either..I can say when I was younger I was a little more ignorant..but I've learned a lot from listening and not always being the one who knows everything and feels the need to talk..
Just as bad.

You just made your own special brand of religion and cling to that as if you're introduced something
 

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Just as bad.

You just made your own special brand of religion and cling to that as if you're introduced something
No I didn't just make anything..son..ur gonna learn thru life experience that u don't have all the answers...hopefully sooner than later..as soon as u drop that mentality..a lot more intellectual doors will open up for u..u won't just become smarter..u will become wiser..right now..u come off ignorant and immature..
 

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Get on a black man for fukking a cac and claim to be pro black but follow the religion that was used to keep your ancestors docile and taught to them while in bondage brehs
 

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Get on a black man for fukking a cac and claim to be pro black but follow the religion that was used to keep your ancestors docile and taught to them while in bondage brehs
 
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