Demarcus Cousins just got paid

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It was either

pay now, get the inevitable out of the way and just get going on making it work

or

allow yourself a season to second guess it and make the decision even tougher, and that leads to everyone feeling a type of way about it

Since that's their man, the negotiating took 5 minutes. There isn't a player who a team is building around now that didn't have a short negotiation.
 

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Kings don't really lose here even though he hasn't proven to be worth the money yet. Best case scenario he gets his act together and justifies the deal. Worse case he still acts up and they trade him to some other team willing to take the risk because of his talent and they'll hope he gets his act together under their system and justifies the money.

Plus like I was saying in the Melo thread...you gotta overpay or you're not gonna get the player 95% of the time. You're worth as much as someone is willing to pay you tbh.
 

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Five related thoughts:

1. This may not totally be Pete D'Alessandro's decision. Vivek Ranadivé has been publicly building up Cousins since before he hired a GM. Michael Malone also heralded Cousins before D'Alessandro was hired. Something tells me that a candidate who told Vivek and company that Cousins needs to go might not be the GM right now. (That's not to say Vivek wouldn't hire someone who doesn't agree with him, or that he's not open to competing philosophies -- it's that this is a major issue and I don't think many candidates, especially potential first-time GMs, would express that opinion with hopes of getting the job.)

It's pretty clear that Vivek has a keen interest in basketball operations. This is a big basketball decision that Vivek has publicly weighed in on ... repeatedly. So if the deal doesn't work out, I'm not sure it's specifically on D'Alessandro. It seems like an institutional decision to ride with Boogie. (For what it's worth, I think the Tyreke Evans decision was mostly D'Alessandro, and a bigger deal than this extension overall.)

2. There's little chance of a Cousins discount next year anyway. The debate on whether it's worth it to extend players early to keep good feelings flowing is an interesting one, but the other issue -- will you get him cheaper now or later? -- is essentially irrelevant in this case, because someone will offer him the max next season if he's on the market. I won't say that is totally regardless of what happens this season, because ... you know. Stuff happens. But it's a pretty high probability that he'll be in position to get a four-year max from someone next summer. That's not an issue that forces you to extend him now, because you could just match next year. But taken into consideration with the other issues (like his attitude and the image of the franchise) it's worth noting.

3. This is not in any way about Tyreke Evans. The team did not commit to Evans, and he left. Many of us think Evans might still be a very good player. Evans was a better teammate and nicer guy than Cousins, and quite possibly the better player to this point. (Certainly more reliable.) But this isn't about Evans. The positional gulf is not to be dismissed: finding an above-average center is loads more difficult than an above-average two-guard. (Especially considering this team's roster.) Plus, Cousins' ceiling at this point would seem to be higher. It may be more likely that Evans reaches his ceiling than Cousins reaches his, but that's pretty much irrelevant. Again, this deal is not about Evans. It's about the franchise's belief in Cousins, and by proxy its ability to reach Cousins.

4. Cousins has no excuses. If he didn't get an extension, you could make an argument that the uncertainty over his future weighed on him this season and caused him to do x, y and z. Nope. With an extension, the mystery on that is gone. This will also be his third head coach and he has a solidly run franchise behind him. He's been loaded with gobs of royal jelly. His teammates aren't the best in the world, but no one is expecting him to win 50 games. The expectation is to keep his nose clean(er) and produce. If he doesn't, at the end of this season, we'll know.

5. We're in for years of entertainment. I get as frustrated as anyone with Boogie. The suspensions, the ejections, the bad defense: it's annoying. But man, he is great fun when he's playing well. He has a remarkably confident attitude, he's emotive, he's bombastic, he really doesn't give a crap about anything. The attitude comp on him is usually Sheed, but in some ways I do liken him to his new mentor, Shaq. O'Neal was a goofball foremost, a bully second. Boogie has those flipped when things aren't going well. But when they are going well, he's goofy. And that's great! Plus, he has those semi-frequent huge nights where it's just glorious to watch. The 20-15 nights. The less frequent 30-20 nights. No, it's not fun when he's going for eight points on 3-20 shooting. But after the stretch this team has had, I value "entertainment" pretty highly, and Cousins always keeps things interesting.
 

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Shaq will mentor DeMarcus Cousins for Sacramento Kings
So now that new Sacramento Kings minority owner Shaquille O'Neal has taken on the task of mentoring DeMarcus Cousins, that has to be a sign that a contract extension is coming for the mercurial 23-year-old center, right?

"I don't want to say anything premature, but I've been constant in my support for DeMarcus," new Kings owner Vivek Ranadive told USA TODAY Sports. "I reached out to him when we first closed the deal. He was the first person I reached out to. They're out there practicing on their own every day, and he's out there leading those practices. He's out there with the team practicing every single day by themselves. They all came to Sacramento early. I don't know if that's ever happened. So 'Dr. O'Neal' and I are going to have dinner with him on Monday night, and Dr. O'Neal is going to spend a couple of days with him and the team. So I'm very, very pleased with everything that I'm seeing."

As O'Neal begins his unexpected tenure with his former rival team, he has one goal on top of his to-do list: to make Cousins the most feared big man in the game. Neither Ranadive or O'Neal was willing to offer clarity on the extension that can be agreed upon up to the Oct. 31 deadline, but it continues to be clear that Cousins is a major priority for the new regime that took over after Ranadive and his group bought the team for a league-record $535 million valuation in late May. If an extension is not agreed upon, Cousins would become a restricted free agent next summer and - if only because his long-term future would appear uncertain - likely spend much of this season as the topic of trade rumors.

O'Neal, however, plans on leaving the business to Ranadive while focusing on the basketball.

"You hear people say all the time that he's probably the most talented big man in the league, so now if you've got that behind your name, then everything else must follow," O'Neal told USA TODAY Sports. "I'm going to teach him a few things to add to his game."


Cousins has quickly become one of the biggest enigmas in the game, a widely-respected talent whose penchant for outbursts and clashes with coaches have marred his first three seasons in the league.But O'Neal, who held the title he wants Cousins to have for most of his 19-year career, sees the potential for Cousins to take his torch. The two have no prior relationship, but they have spoken by phone since an agreement was reached for O'Neal to become a Kings minority owner.

"DeMarcus is so excited at just the thought that (Shaq) is going to be talking to him, going to be spending time with him, going to be watching him, on the practice court, that he just can't contain himself," Ranadive said. "When he first heard that (Shaq) was looking at becoming an investor in the Kings, he just texted me and said, 'Can I please, please reach out to (Shaq)?'"

As O'Neal discussed at length, the work they do between the ears will be even more important than the work they do between the lines. It's the beginning, he hopes, of a powerful pairing. O'Neal has strong views on his new minority ownership endeavor and on Cousins. Here are some of his comments on the young Kings big man.

On how he got better in his playing days, and what he can pass on:

"What took my game to the next level wasn't practicing, it was conversation. What took my game to the next level was conversation with (former Lakers general manager) Jerry West, and conversation with (former Lakers coach) Phil Jackson. You know, you can go in the gym all day and do a hundred moves, but it's the conversation. Jerry West believed in me, and he was like, 'Hey, look up Shaq, your jersey will be up there someday.' So now I was like, 'I've got to step my game up.' And then conversations with Phil, who's saying, 'Shaq, I know you're doing movies and doing rap, but if you put that down this year I guarantee you I'll get you MVP.' So we're going to be having conversations and I'm going to stay on him. When you're good, and you're becoming great, expectations are high. But if you're well prepared, then you can meet any expectation."

On how he sees Cousins' game:

"I like his game. I like his ferocity. And he hates to lose. When you have those ingredients, like I said it's all about conversation. I was putting up big numbers and couldn't win anything. We'd get swept by Utah every year, and then all it took was one or two conversations — one time I heard Larry Bird say, 'You're the greatest big man ever. It's just conversations. We're going to have nice, light-hearted conversations. I'm going to teach him one or two things that I think he can do better.

"I'm not going to try to change his game — I like his game. But he's the leader on our team, so I'll talk to him about leadership and good examples. I'll talk to him about doing things a certain way and doing things consistent. First thing I'm going to say to him is, 'How many points do you want to average?' And hopefully he says 26 or 27, and I'm going to show him an easy way of how to get that and get it every night and expect it and want it and go for that every night. And then I'll also have a conversation with him about how to make his teammates better. I would like to see Sacramento back where it used to be."

On how he plans to help Cousins:

"I used to do a million drills I never needed, and then do one or two things that – for example, Dominique Wilkins told me, 'Shaq, don't try to score all 28 (points) in the first half, you're going to tire yourself out for the second half. Seven points a quarter — three jump hooks and a free throw.'

"The way I'm going to evaluate him is I'm going to evaluate him four times a year, every 20 games. 'OK, what are you doing? You need to do this. You need to do that.' I can't teach him everything, and I don't want to teach him everything. He has a fabulous game, so it's all about the conversation. We're all going to look at him now like, 'Hey, you're the man. You want to be the man. Let's do it.' He's going to do it. He's ready. He's going to get some guys around him and be young and exciting."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...haq-sacramento-kings-shaquille-oneal/2854625/
 

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Get him some real help and he won't have to take bad shots.
Look at their roster. The Kings aren't failing due to lack of effort. They're struggling due to results (a lot of it being fit related.) You can take damn near every player on that squad, put them on a better squad and go "wow he was a big reason why they improved" but put em together and it's clusterfukk city.

He got Vasquez, McLemore, Malone, new ownership from top to bottom, organizational stability, and a clear pecking order. Like that article @mozichrome posted, DMC's running out of excuses. Now he just has to step his shyt up.

Personally, him leading, I don't see how they get much higher without a team or two or three imploding in front of them moving forward or A LOT breaking their way. They need more work. IMO, McLemore's the ultimate wild card for them. If he plays up to what he's capable of, that's his sidekick. If he sucks, DMC could put up Kevin Love numbers and they'd still lose.
 

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Look at their roster. The Kings aren't failing due to lack of effort. They're struggling due to results (a lot of it being fit related.) You can take damn near every player on that squad, put them on a better squad and go "wow he was a big reason why they improved" but put em together and it's clusterfukk city.

He got Vasquez, McLemore, Malone, new ownership from top to bottom, organizational stability, and a clear pecking order. Like that article @mozichrome posted, DMC's running out of excuses. Now he just has to step his shyt up.

Personally, him leading, I don't see how they get much higher without a team or two or three imploding in front of them moving forward or A LOT breaking their way. They need more work. IMO, McLemore's the ultimate wild card for them. If he plays up to what he's capable of, that's his sidekick. If he sucks, DMC could put up Kevin Love numbers and they'd still lose.
Who was the best player DC ever played with in the NBA? He's played with mediocre point guards and power forwards.
 

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Who was the best player DC ever played with in the NBA? He's played with mediocre point guards and power forwards.
DMC inherited a rookie of the year winner.


That's not to say the team was constructed correctly (you can argue that making DMC your centerpiece is flawed in of itself), but DMC has yet to reach a point where he's such a sure thing that we can pinpoint the talent surrounding him as the problem.
 

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DMC inherited a rookie of the year winner.


That's not to say the team was constructed correctly (you can argue that making DMC your centerpiece is flawed in of itself), but DMC has yet to reach a point where he's such a sure thing that we can pinpoint the talent surrounding him as the problem.
So the best player Cousins ever played with in the league was a washed up Tyreke Evans and y'all wonder why he takes bad shots?
 

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So the best player Cousins ever played with in the league was a washed up Tyreke Evans and y'all wonder why he takes bad shots?


Really? I know you feel a type of way towards him, but be real here. Evans was Exhibit A of the instability surrounding that team in general.

Tyreke's one of the reasons why it's OK to be legitimately aware of the Pelicans coming up so soon
 

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So the best player Cousins ever played with in the league was a washed up Tyreke Evans and y'all wonder why he takes bad shots?

He's a good player but he seems a little special to me. If I'm a GM I might be hesitant on risking 60 mill on a special individual. Who knows maybe he kicks it and becomes a full functioning basketball player one day and everything works out for both parties.
 

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Really? I know you feel a type of way towards him, but be real here. Evans was Exhibit A of the instability surrounding that team in general.

Tyreke's one of the reasons why it's OK to be legitimately aware of the Pelicans coming up so soon
Everybody knows Reke fizzled his sophomore year in the league. Cousins has played with mediocre nikkas since he's been in the league. He's never played with an above average point guard nor a above average power forward or wing.
 

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He's a good player but he seems a little special to me. If I'm a GM I might be hesitant on risking 60 mill on a special individual. Who knows maybe he kicks it and becomes a full functioning basketball player one day and everything works out for both parties.
Any smart GM would give that nikka 60 mill with the quickness. Get that man a real point guard and watch him flourish.
 
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