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What’s the issue with having trans women compete with men?

The reason women don’t compete with men isn’t because they’d get raped in the locker room, it’s because they physically can’t compete.

If you admit that women can’t compete with men then why do you assume a trans woman who was born a man doesn’t have any unfair advantages?

I’m for trans rights but fighting for them to play in women’s leagues is a losing issue
i'd love to see big blue states take that c*nt Pam Bondi all the way to the supreme court

but for the love of christ; not over this :snoop: trump will literally give them a better reason by march

don't let this blonde white woman get to get up in front of the country and talk about how she's protecting all american daughters. this is a disaster
 

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What’s the issue with having trans women compete with men?

The reason women don’t compete with men isn’t because they’d get raped in the locker room, it’s because they physically can’t compete.

If you admit that women can’t compete with men then why do you assume a trans woman who was born a man doesn’t have any unfair advantages?

I’m for trans rights but fighting for them to play in women’s leagues is a losing issue
i'd love to see big blue states take that c*nt Pam Bondi all the way to the supreme court

but for the love of christ; not over this :snoop: trump will literally give them a better reason by march

don't let this blonde white woman get to get up in front of the country and talk about how she's protecting all american daughters. this is a disaster

Yall should make a thread for culture and discrimination issues, so yall can complain about trannys blm dei police etc. Leave the reform thread to actually reforming the parties policy positions
 

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Yall should make a thread for culture and discrimination issues, so yall can complain about trannys blm dei police etc. Leave the reform thread to actually reforming the parties policy positions
this is a reform that needs to happen. the Democrats are wrong. morally, physically, and scientifically; they are wrong. and it costs the party's image, which contributes to costing elections

or is your position that progressives get to say 2+2=11, and the rest of us are obligated to go along with it? because you damn sure don't represent the majority
 

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I just don't know how they can fight this.

these people are idiots. trump hasn't tangibly made anyone's life better in the past month. republicans are just better salesmen than democrats

the Dems can fight it by;

-stop being fukking weird, and present themselves as a normal alternative
-letting Trump crash the economy
-mocking him and blaming him

trump set himself up for massive overpromise and underperform, and that's the one thing the next 2 years hinges on

but i still say that a lot of this expectation for Dems to "fight' is fukking stupid. the MAGA base wanted republicans to "fight" in 2021; can anyone in here name a single thing republicans did? no, because they were powerless
 

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I’m not sure of that young man’s intent (if he in fact had an ulterior motive) but the premise of his tweet does seem to resonate with some people whether or not other people also are also displeased with mr Jeffries. As we look forward to building the party up I hope we continue to be open to critiquing all those who claim to be in the democratic tent.
Okay but lots of people are going at leftists. Jefferies getting criticism because he looks to be out of the fight. Same as Schumer.
 

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James Carville: It’s Time for a Daring Political Maneuver, Democrats

Feb. 25, 2025
By James Carville

Mr. Carville is a veteran of Democratic presidential campaigns, including Bill Clinton’s in 1992, and a consultant to American Bridge, a Democratic super PAC.

The Republican Party is all too often effective at campaigning and winning elections, but there’s another fact about it that a lot of Americans forget: The Republican Party flat out sucks at governing. Even Tucker Carlson agrees with this. For all the huffing and puffing on the campaign trail in 2016, the first Trump administration largely amounted to tax cuts for the wealthy, 500 miles of a border wall and a destructive pandemic gone viral. George W. Bush got us into a harebrained war in Iraq and then tried to privatize Social Security while letting our financial system drive smack into the Great Recession. And George H.W. Bush governed his way into a one-term presidency because of the economy.

For Round 2 in office, instead of prioritizing the problems he campaigned on — public safety, immigration and the border and, most of all, the economy — President Trump is hellbent on dismantling the federal government. To accomplish this, he has put his faith in the most incompetent cabinet in modern history: a health and human services secretary who is already targeting federal vaccination efforts and dumped a bear carcass in Central Park as a fun prank at age 60, a director of national intelligence who was devoted to an allegedly abusive yoga-centered cult, a WWE tyc00n turned head of Department of Education and a former cable news talking head as defense secretary. Which will result in one clear thing: disorder. There will probably be more enormous tax cuts for the wealthy and Medicaid cuts hitting a lot of other people, but there is nothing the American public despises more than disorder and a broken economy.

And there’s nothing Democrats can legitimately do to stop it, even if we wanted to.

With no clear leader to voice our opposition and no control in any branch of government, it’s time for Democrats to embark on the most daring political maneuver in the history of our party: roll over and play dead. Allow the Republicans to crumble beneath their own weight and make the American people miss us. Only until the Trump administration has spiraled into the low 40s or high 30s in public approval polling percentages should we make like a pack of hyenas and go for the jugular. Until then, I’m calling for a strategic political retreat.

The Army has a term for this: tactical pause.
It’s a vision move — get out of the hour-to-hour, day-to-day combat where one side (ours) is largely playing defense and struggling to defend politically charged positions (like explaining D.E.I. or persuading voters to care about foreign aid) and take time to regroup, look forward and make decisions about where we want to get to over the next two years. I don’t think a lot of Americans are waiting around for us to use the same old arguments and same old language to pile on Donald Trump. They’re tired of it, and our Democratic voters are tired of watching us moan and groan to cover up our impotency out of power. They want us to be smarter than that.

Our first major test in the art of strategic retreat comes in a few weeks, as the Trump administration must get a budget passed that raises the debt ceiling. There are deep internal Republican divides over the budget: Republicans don’t know what they want to include, they don’t agree on an agenda, and they do not have a clear path forward. Mr. Trump has asked for an abolishment of the debt ceiling. The speaker of the House, his close ally, has yet to definitively support him on it.

Already, many Democrats across the party are itching at their seams for a showdown. Instead of gearing up to fight them — as we love to do — the most radical thing we can do is nothing at all. Let the Republicans disagree with themselves publicly. Do not offer a single vote. Do not insert yourself into the discourse. Do not throw a monkey wrench into the equation. Simply step away and let ’em flirt with a default. Just when they’ve pushed themselves to the brink and it appears they could collapse the global economy, come in and save the day. Be the competent party and not the chaos party. House Democrats know this. It’s time for everyone in our party, including the darlings who want to run in 2028, to understand this as well. You won’t win or achieve anything meaningful going toe to toe with the Trump administration right now.

This equation must be applied for the remainder of this year. Let the Republicans push for their tax cuts, their Medicaid cuts, their food stamp cuts. Give them all the rope they need. Then let dysfunction paralyze their House caucus and rupture their tiny majority. Let them reveal themselves as incapable of governing and, at the right moment, start making a coordinated, consistent argument about the need to protect Medicare, Medicaid, worker benefits and middle-class pocketbooks. Let the Republicans crumble, let the American people see it, and wait until they need us to offer our support.

It’s a wiser approach than we pursued in the first Trump administration, when Democrats tried and failed at the art of resistance politics
. We voiced outrage on social issue after social issue. We spun ourselves up in a tizzy over an investigation into Russia. We fought Mr. Trump at every corner, on every issue imaginable and muddied up our message in an unwinnable war. We were saved only by his lousy governing and a lot of effort on our side finding good candidates to run for the House and Senate in 2018. Sometimes the most powerful thing we can do is retreat on the immediate battlefield — and advance in another direction.

It won’t take long. Public support for this administration will fall through the floorboard. It’s already happening. Just over a month in, the president’s approval has already sunk underwater in two new polls. The people did not vote for the Department of Education to be obliterated; they voted for lower prices for eggs and milk. Democrats, let the Republicans’ own undertow drag them away.

At this rate, the Trump honeymoon will be over, best case, by Memorial Day but more likely in the next 30 days. And in November 2025, we start turning the tide with what will be remembered as one of the most important elections in recent years: the Virginia governor’s race. From tax enforcers to rocket scientists, bank regulators and essential workers — the Trump administration is hellbent on drastically firing the federal work force, despite the fact that federal civilian employees account for just 3 percent of the federal budget. These workers are highly concentrated in Virginia, home to around 144,000 civilian federal employees. It looks set to be a resounding Republican defeat. This will be the first moment when we can take the offensive back and begin our crusade again.

Half a century ago, Muhammad Ali cemented himself as the greatest heavyweight boxer of all time not by punching his way to glory but by mastering the art of the strategic retreat. Facing George Foreman, who was rolling off 37 knockouts and 40 wins, Ali deployed the famous rope-a-dope strategy, retreating to the ropes of the ring, evading punches right and left, absorbing small jabs, until Foreman’s battery was depleted — and in Round 8 deployed a decisive knockout blow.

It’s Round 1. Let’s rope-a-dope, Dems.
 
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these people are idiots. trump hasn't tangibly made anyone's life better in the past month. republicans are just better salesmen than democrats
He hasn't but from a low informational voter perspective you can understand why people voted for trump. The ecomomy was worse under biden then it was under trump; the unfortunate reality is the ecomomy tanking was caused by trumps treasury printing money, tax cuts and his handling of the pandemic. People only vote based on their own personal finances.
 

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Folks on here whine and complain on here when people point out that certain voices on the left want to erase black representation but here we are again. “bike advocate” :mjgrin:
:jbhmm:Yeah those types really give off the energy they would be down with doing a compromise of 1877 2.0 if it meant locking down the :mjpls: vote. that is something I always fear about alot these "class reductionist" types:mjpls:
The Compromise of 1877 was an informal agreement that resolved the disputed 1876 presidential election, allowing Rutherford B. Hayes to become president in exchange for the withdrawal of federal troops from the South, effectively ending the Reconstruction era. This deal marked a significant shift in U.S. politics, leading to increased Democratic control in the South and the implementation of Jim Crow laws.
 

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See now, this person reads like a bad-actor.

Folks on here whine and complain on here when people point out that certain voices on the left want to erase black representation but here we are again. “bike advocate” :mjgrin:
These are serious discussions and critiques that need to take place while we seek to rebuild the Democratic Party.

Why are some so eager to tear down black voices in the party while also being so vigorous to stamp out any dissent against republicans?
 

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he’s right. The activist online left has more smoke for the democrats than Republicans and that’s a huge problem. Why is there more venom shown towards Hakeem than Mike Johnson or Thune?
Lmao just because they didn’t vote for him doesn’t give Mike Johnson an excuse to objectively make their life worse. Elected representatives are suppose to represent all Americans even the ones that don’t vote them.

You don’t see MAGA shytting on Republicans. They stay on code, the only time they break code is when Republicans turn on Trump
Y'all keep going with this line and it doesn't make a lick of sense. Mike Johnson and the Republicans have less than zero respect or assumed responsibility for the left. Not only do they not claim to represent the left, they actively disdain the left and believe they are the enemy. So what would leftist appeals to Mike Johnson to change his ways do? He's a known enemy. Saying "elected representatives are supposed to represent all Americans even the ones that don't vote for them" is a hopelessly naive sentiment, man. This isn't Schoolhouse Rock, these people think leftists are ungodly deviants. They're not amenable to correction. The Democratic Party is ostensibly the primary vehicle for Left-Liberal political advocacy and action. They're the only major party that leftists vote for or engage with. So of course there's going to be more smoke when they fukk up. The Democratic leadership is much more amenable to move in a leftist direction than the Republican leadership.

You think leftists criticizing the Democratic Party is giving Mike Johnson a pass, but Mike Johnson doesn't give a single solitary fukk about leftists being upset at him. He views that as proof he's doing the right thing. Leftists are to Mike Johnson what the Proud Boys are to Liberals/Democrats. If the Proud Boys criticize Democrats, how much sway does that have within the Democratic Party? Did Joe Biden say "Oh shyt the Proud Boys think I'm doing the wrong thing, and because I represent all Americans I guess I should start moving towards their direction"? Of course not. So why would MAGA do that with the online left?

Simply put, Mike Johnson and the Republicans aren't fukking up. They're doing exactly what their ideological desires are. Leftists abandoning critiquing the Democratic Party and switching to shytting on Republican leadership (which they already do btw!) isn't going to move the needle except to Democratic Party bootlickers desperate to defray any criticism from the current leadership of the party.
 
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