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Y'all keep going with this line and it doesn't make a lick of sense. Mike Johnson and the Republicans have less than zero respect or assumed responsibility for the left. Not only do they not claim to represent the left, they actively disdain the left and believe they are the enemy. So what would leftist appeals to Mike Johnson to change his ways do? He's a known enemy. Saying "elected representatives are supposed to represent all Americans even the ones that don't vote for them" is a hopelessly naive sentiment, man. This isn't Schoolhouse Rock, these people think leftists are ungodly deviants. They're not amenable to correction. The Democratic Party is ostensibly the primary vehicle for Left-Liberal political advocacy and action. They're the only major party that leftists vote for or engage with. So of course there's going to be more smoke when they fukk up. The Democratic leadership is much more amenable to move in a leftist direction than the Republican leadership.

You think leftists criticizing the Democratic Party is giving Mike Johnson a pass, but Mike Johnson doesn't give a single solitary fukk about leftists being upset at him. He views that as proof he's doing the right thing. Leftists are to Mike Johnson what the Proud Boys are to Liberals/Democrats. If the Proud Boys criticize Democrats, how much sway does that have within the Democratic Party? Did Joe Biden say "Oh shyt the Proud Boys think I'm doing the wrong thing, and because I represent all Americans I guess I should start moving towards their direction"? Of course not. So why would MAGA do that with the online left?

Simply put, Mike Johnson and the Republicans aren't fukking up. They're doing exactly what their ideological desires are. Leftists abandoning critiquing the Democratic Party and switching to shytting on Republican leadership (which they already do btw!) isn't going to move the needle except to Democratic Party bootlickers desperate to defray any criticism from the current leadership of the party.
The motivations are different. Dems want to build. GOP wants to destroy. If you are attacking builders, you’re helping destroyers.

Smarten up.
 

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Y'all keep going with this line and it doesn't make a lick of sense. Mike Johnson and the Republicans have less than zero respect or assumed responsibility for the left. Not only do they not claim to represent the left, they actively disdain the left and believe they are the enemy. So what would leftist appeals to Mike Johnson to change his ways do? He's a known enemy. Saying "elected representatives are supposed to represent all Americans even the ones that don't vote for them" is a hopelessly naive sentiment, man. This isn't Schoolhouse Rock, these people think leftists are ungodly deviants. They're not amenable to correction. The Democratic Party is ostensibly the primary vehicle for Left-Liberal political advocacy and action. They're the only major party that leftists vote for or engage with. So of course there's going to be more smoke when they fukk up. The Democratic leadership is much more amenable to move in a leftist direction than the Republican leadership.

You think leftists criticizing the Democratic Party is giving Mike Johnson a pass, but Mike Johnson doesn't give a single solitary fukk about leftists being upset at him. He views that as proof he's doing the right thing. Leftists are to Mike Johnson what the Proud Boys are to Liberals/Democrats. If the Proud Boys criticize Democrats, how much sway does that have within the Democratic Party? Did Joe Biden say "Oh shyt the Proud Boys think I'm doing the wrong thing, and because I represent all Americans I guess I should start moving towards their direction"? Of course not. So why would MAGA do that with the online left?

Simply put, Mike Johnson and the Republicans aren't fukking up. They're doing exactly what their ideological desires are. Leftists abandoning critiquing the Democratic Party and switching to shytting on Republican leadership (which they already do btw!) isn't going to move the needle except to Democratic Party bootlickers desperate to defray any criticism from the current leadership of the party.
Have you seen the blowback Republican reps have been facing at town halls from the DOGE cuts?

Nothing is stopping leftist in those districts from attending those town halls or going in areas those reps are and protesting.

Leftist claims their policy positions are common sense and would be adopted by the majority of the populace if they were aware of it, so why wouldn’t a voter who in theory supports certain left policies also vote for the Republicans based off sheer ignorance? The Republicans don’t know who you voted for but if you protest them they will feel the pressure to act less evil.

Nobody is telling you to dress in a rainbow flag to protest or dress like you’re apart of Antifa, they wouldn’t know you were a leftist but they would feel that pressure.

Republicans act like they don’t give a fukk about you because you people give them a carte blanch pass to be as nefarious as possible because they are Republicans.

Protesting them highlights their evil because it’s so rare for them to face public backlash that it generally goes viral
 

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these people are idiots. trump hasn't tangibly made anyone's life better in the past month. republicans are just better salesmen than democrats

the Dems can fight it by;

-stop being fukking weird, and present themselves as a normal alternative
-letting Trump crash the economy
-mocking him and blaming him

trump set himself up for massive overpromise and underperform, and that's the one thing the next 2 years hinges on

but i still say that a lot of this expectation for Dems to "fight' is fukking stupid. the MAGA base wanted republicans to "fight" in 2021; can anyone in here name a single thing republicans did? no, because they were powerless
Its a cult at this point. And the number of black ppl in it is :mindblown:

Marcellus Wiley is maga. Dude would rarely talk politics.
 

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Yall should make a thread for culture and discrimination issues, so yall can complain about trannys blm dei police etc. Leave the reform thread to actually reforming the parties policy positions
I’m for trans rights. What’s wrong with what I said?

You’re a sports head, you know what unfair advantages men have playing against women in sports
 

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I’m for trans rights. What’s wrong with what I said?

You’re a sports head, you know what unfair advantages men have playing against women in sports
Depends on the sport and depends on if they're on puberty blockers at a young age which republicans don't want. Most female sports aren't physical they don't play football or wrestling, the main concern would be track; which like I said above if republicans actually faced reality that these people exist you could get them on puberty blockers at a young age which would eliminate a significant portion of their advantages. Or these districts ( which is not many btw) that have a small segment of transgender kids could have coed sports leagues which would be fair to them
 

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Depends on the sport and depends on if they're on puberty blockers at a young age which republicans don't want. Most female sports aren't physical they don't play football or wrestling, the main concern would be track; which like I said above if republicans actually faced reality that these people exist you could get them on puberty blockers at a young age which would eliminate a significant portion of their advantages. Or these districts ( which is not many btw) that have a small segment of transgender kids could have coed sports leagues which would be fair to them
All male leagues are coed, females just can’t compete. Trans girls have the ability to compete in male leagues too.

If I’m wrong please tell me how. I don’t want to come off bigoted
 

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Have you seen the blowback Republican reps have been facing at town halls from the DOGE cuts?

Nothing is stopping leftist in those districts from attending those town halls or going in areas those reps are and protesting.

Leftist claims their policy positions are common sense and would be adopted by the majority of the populace if they were aware of it, so why wouldn’t a voter who in theory supports certain left policies also vote for the Republicans based off sheer ignorance? The Republicans don’t know who you voted for but if you protest them they will feel the pressure to act less evil.

Nobody is telling you to dress in a rainbow flag to protest or dress like you’re apart of Antifa, they wouldn’t know you were a leftist but they would feel that pressure.

Republicans act like they don’t give a fukk about you because you people give them a carte blanch pass to be as nefarious as possible because they are Republicans.

Protesting them highlights their evil because it’s so rare for them to face public backlash that it generally goes viral
But they didn’t vote for them! :damn:

So what if their policies are harming the people they (allegedly) care about every day! They cant say anything because they didn’t vote for them!!! :damn:

You can’t call out evil if you don’t vote for it :sadcam:!!
 

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But they didn’t vote for them! :damn:

So what if their policies are harming the people they (allegedly) care about every day! They cant say anything because they didn’t vote for them!!! :damn:

You can’t call out evil if you don’t vote for it :sadcam:!!
Haha the irony is that Republicans and the activist left have one thing in common, they love standing up to liberals but have no smoke for fascists
 
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