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It's a close fight, but I'll have to give the edge to Elon because if he were in Trump's shoes and had the powers of the Presidency and control of the government he would be pushing even more horrific policies than what we're currently seeing - like mass detention of "non-white undesirables" into camps and forcibly inseminating white women to recover the white birth rate - but if Trump were in Elon's shoes and was the richest man in the world he would just be on TV hocking his bullshyt products and going to award shows. Trump wants attention and adoration, Elon wants to recover Apartheid South Africa. Trump can't even be bothered to show up to work as the President, Elon is willing to burn all of his bridges for his neo-MAGA political project. He's a committed ideologue to this evil agenda in a way that surpasses Trump.

And he's the bigger threat because as he himself just said:



If I have one bullet, the choice is easy for me.



Elon is racist in an autistic terminally only incel type of way

Trump is allowing Stephen miler dictate his domestic policy and Miller would be a high ranking member of the SS.

Trump is literally committing an ethnic cleansing in America right now of but the media has yet to frame it that way
 

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He’s already doing it by blasting Trump is a pedophile on the entire platform
No one is saying it's bad that Elon is blasting Trump. We're saying the Democrats should have absolutely nothing to do with picking sides here. We're already seeing centrist know-nothings salivate about the possibility of bringing Elon in.



Just godawful stuff.
 

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No one is saying it's bad that Elon is blasting Trump. We're saying the Democrats should have absolutely nothing to do with picking sides here. We're already seeing centrist know-nothings salivate about the possibility of bringing Elon in.



Just godawful stuff.

I don’t see how the democrats creating an alliance with Elon until they regain power (White House, and congress) could be a bad thing. It’s better than them doing nothing at all right?

If democrats were truly Machiavellian and used Elon to regain power then discipline him for 2024 wouldn’t you respect them for that?
 

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Elon is racist in an autistic terminally only incel type of way
Elon is racist in a "boer who grew up in Apartheid South Africa" kind of way. The autistic online incel stuff is just the flavor, the real meat of his ideology is Lost Cause of the Confederacy stuff.

Trump is allowing Stephen miler dictate his domestic policy and Miller would be a high ranking member of the SS.
Right, Stephen Miller vs Elon would be a much closer fight. They're both deeply committed ideologues, but Elon has a much bigger gun.
 

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Elon is racist in a "boer who grew up in Apartheid South Africa" kind of way. The autistic online incel stuff is just the flavor, the real meat of his ideology is Lost Cause of the Confederacy stuff.


Right, Stephen Miller vs Elon would be a much closer fight. They're both deeply committed ideologues, but Elon has a much bigger gun.
I disagree, Elon only has two assets(twitter and campaign finance ), Trump/Miller has the entire strength of the US executive branch and they’ve been enacting an ethnic cleansing of Hispanics since day one
 

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I don’t see how the democrats creating an alliance with Elon until they regain power (White House, and congress) could be a bad thing. It’s better than them doing nothing at all right?

If democrats were truly Machiavellian and used Elon to regain power then discipline him for 2024 wouldn’t you respect them for that?
You don't see how the Democrats creating an alliance with the far right neo-nazis who fundamentally hate the idea of government doing anything to help regular people in order to regain power could be a bad thing? :dwillhuh: You're not going to trick Elon into giving you his gun in exchange for nothing, man. Especially not with the current Democratic leadership.

I would respect the Democrats if they used this schism as an opportunity to explain to people how dysfunctional and evil both Elon and Trump are, and present a virtuous agenda as an alternative to the chaos.
 

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Donate his money? To who? You think this guy is going to hand over massive cash to Democrats in exchange for nothing? He didn't even give Trump that money for nothing, and he ultimately agrees with him! Democrats doing anything to bring the world's most prominent neo-nazi into the fold is a terrible idea that can only be thought up by people who have zero interest in actual political outcomes. Shouldn't be surprised though, these same people have been trying to rehabilitate George W. Bush as well. :coffee:
i don't think you understand; nobody cares about offending you goofy clowns on the far left anymore, because you're perpetually offended :yeshrug:you've jumped the shark as a movement. you're finished

if it's a choice between working with a scorned Elon to take down MAGA, or worrying about what the drag queen story hour wing of the party thinks: prepare to lose that battle

i mean, not you, obviously. you aren't a registered american voter
 

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You don't see how the Democrats creating an alliance with the far right neo-nazis who fundamentally hate the idea of government doing anything to help regular people in order to regain power could be a bad thing? :dwillhuh: You're not going to trick Elon into giving you his gun in exchange for nothing, man. Especially not with the current Democratic leadership.

I would respect the Democrats if they used this schism as an opportunity to explain to people how dysfunctional and evil both Elon and Trump are, and present a virtuous agenda as an alternative to the chaos.
The Democrats had an alliance with Elon during the Obama years. I moreso think Elon being in Trump’s orbit made him more racist/“Nazi” versus Elon being in Trump’s orbit made Trump more racist.

I think Elon is an autistic racist South African but I think he pretended to be more racist than he truly is to fit in with MAGA.

I also think his daughter turning trans made him spiral and turn “anti woke”
 

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Yes let’s reject Elon’s effort in tanking the BBB because his intentions aren’t pure enough. Give up on following politics kid, you’ll always be disappointed. This ain’t a fairy tale, happy endings aren’t guaranteed just because you have a “good heart”
@Outlaw stop this. This man deserves no quarter. Sometimes you have to let it all burn down.

Elon can get wrecked. He knew what he was doing.
 
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