Democratic Party Rebuild

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Exactly your an idiot like most of the other democrat consultants, you think the way to defeat Fascism is to day fukk the working class and unions. Absolutely brain dead policies

Unions are mostly outdated mechanisms of worker power. They didn’t even support Kamala and union activists were more worried about Gaza than Grand Rapids

 

[the cac mamba]

Positions like everyone should be guaranteed healthcare in the richest nation to ever exist? Positions like society should provide parents with the same benefits that every other OECD nation provides their parents with? Positions like people shouldn't have to go bankrupt to get a college degree?

those positions are fine, although i'm sure you haven't accomplished them in Laos, or Albania, or wherever the hell you live

but if you cannot stop touting your unserious positions, that republicans latch onto and laugh at, no one is ever gonna take you seriously. you're just too fukking weird

i look forward to progressives proving me wrong, by going out and winning purple areas and statewide races. feel free to start next year nothing is stopping you

 

[Loose]

Unions are mostly outdated mechanisms of worker power. They didn’t even support Kamala and union activists were more worried about Gaza than Grand Rapids

No they weren't, they were increasingly worried about losing jobs to China Mexico and Canada which is why trump resonates well with them unlike democrats

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

What is this supposed to mean you're literally throwing words at the wall at this point, are you asking for re-education camps? I know you love those .

Biden term was so dog shyt that him bailing out a union didn't phase them, nothing ground breaking biden promised the dems achieved. His best victories was on the regulatory side which was led by progressives What i do blame people for is voting for trump, but it also shows how weak bidens administration was that people were fooled by a con artist

Hmm. Nothing, you say…

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This was said in the context of opposing court-ordered busing for school integration






One guy has a questionable tattoo other guy pushed for anti black laws and was friends with open white supremacist

Busing was a bandaid for poor equitable investment

 

[Loose]

Busing was a bandaid for poor equitable investment

This guy over here defending them racist quotes not even bidens hardest supporters defend that and the crime bill

 

[King Kreole]

Massive Investments in education and impoverished communities, regulations/crackdown of social media, traditional news media and big tech, a near propagandic push for a return to technocracy.

1. Impoverished communities are disproportionately non-white, so I'm assuming you're advocating for increased spending that is just targeting white communities, correct?
2. Technocracy brought us to this point by funnelling the social and economic gains towards specific, small enclaves, so why would a "return" (we're still in a technocracy) bring about different outcomes?
3. What regulations and crackdowns of the news and social media apparatus are you suggesting, and how do you avoid it turning into Soviet-style disavowal of lived reality when your mandate is simply boosting whatever Democrats say?

We’re regressing as a society because of populism. A highly educated electorate should be democratically electing experts to run our government. Qualified, educated liberals should be making the decisions in our society.

That's fine if you believe qualified, educated liberals should be making the decisions in our society, but you either believe in democracy or you don't. And it's fine to say you don't and would rather an authoritarian elite class of liberals making decisions unaccountable to the public, but you're probably going to have to drop all the talk about the far-right MAGA threat to Democracy and the whole vision of public power that the listless corpse of the Democratic Party is still coasting on.

It's like saying "My crush SHOULD like me instead of her boyfriend"...yeah well she doesn't. You can either improve your fitness and personality to become more attractive or you can kidnap her. You seem to be suggesting the latter.

It would be a multi generational approach but we won’t see socialism take hold until racism is seen as arcane by the vast majority of our population.

Woah, multi-generational? So we're going to suffer through...decades of increasingly right-wing fascism so the Liberals can seed the hicks with technocratic lectures about how the capital flight produced by globalization that has destroyed their economic and social fabric is actually a good thing because the tech firms and wall street financiers don't say the n-word (in public) as they drain the coffers of public prosperity? And then one day, a few generations later, by listening to enough lectures by 78 year old Liberal millionaire politicians, these children of deprivation will become sufficiently anti-racist to vote for the Democrats? And all of this to avoid pushing for universal healthcare/childcare or economics that reign in the private interests to re-fund the public? That's the theory of the future?

 

[King Kreole]

So why are you defending him?

You are genuinely one of the stupidest posters on here man. Like you cannot follow a single logical chain of thought for more than 1 post. It's remarkable.

 

[King Kreole]

Unions are mostly outdated mechanisms of worker power. They didn’t even support Kamala

union activists were more worried about Gaza than Grand Rapids

This is actually such a telling comment on the shytheartedness of the neoliberal coward. They believe all the blue-collar Untermensch should have no access to the reservoir of morality they're supposedly guarding, so they short-circuit when they get morally cowed by the presence of a righteous dalit.

"How dare these dumb blue-collar meatheads care about the slaughter of Palestinian babies! I don't care about it, so why should they!"

 

[King Kreole]

those positions are fine, although i'm sure you haven't accomplished them in Laos, or Albania, or wherever the hell you live

Actually in China we have all of these policies already enacted.

but if you cannot stop touting your unserious positions, that republicans latch onto and laugh at, no one is ever gonna take you seriously. you're just too fukking weird

Well actually, only Republicans fellow travellers like yourself are patiently waiting to take cues from the RNC about what should be taken seriously and what's laughable. Apparently you believe the MAGA cultishness, election denialism, and deporting every brown person from the country isn't too weird, but universal childcare is.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Who gives a shyt. Looks what they do without it. If republicans want to fukk over the country and be voted out in masses let them. With the filibuster theirs zero possibility of fixing the issues that they have created. All it does is guarantee that whatever they destroy will stay forever.

Removing the filibuster is some tactic yall conjure up to enact some ambiguous progressive mega plan that fixes everything. It’s a religious attachment to a pipe dream.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This is actually such a telling comment on the shytheartedness of the neoliberal coward. They believe all the blue-collar Untermensch should have no access to the reservoir of morality they're supposedly guarding, so they short-circuit when they get morally cowed by the presence of a righteous dalit.

"How dare these dumb blue-collar meatheads care about the slaughter of Palestinian babies! I don't care about it, so why should they!"

I don’t know what moral projections you’re debating or shadow boxing.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Actually in China we have all of these policies already enacted.


Well actually, only Republicans fellow travellers like yourself are patiently waiting to take cues from the RNC about what should be taken seriously and what's laughable. Apparently you believe the MAGA cultishness, election denialism, and deporting every brown person from the country isn't too weird, but universal childcare is.

Yeah the political viability of the opposition that won the popular vote matters to me.

 

[Loose]

Removing the filibuster is some tactic yall conjure up to enact some ambiguous progressive mega plan that fixes everything. It’s a religious attachment to a pipe dream.

Its the opposite protecting the filibuster is some tactic yall use to enact some ambiguous mediocre governance to not do anything

 

[Outlaw]

1. Impoverished communities are disproportionately non-white, so I'm assuming you're advocating for increased spending that is just targeting white communities, correct?

No I’m advocating for increased investments in all improvised communities economically, and educationally. The overarching theme is to eradicating the poor from self-fulfilling negative stereotypes which helps fuel racism.

Investments in education would be centered around science, history, logic, philosophy, psychology, conflict resolution, social skills, and mental health.

2. Technocracy brought us to this point by funnelling the social and economic gains towards specific, small enclaves, so why would a "return" (we're still in a technocracy) bring about different outcomes?

A better educated populace would solve this problem. The wrong technocrats have been in power, additionally, experts can be wrong but the key aspect of experts running the country there would be quicker course correction.

3. What regulations and crackdowns of the news and social media apparatus are you suggesting, and how do you avoid it turning into Soviet-style disavowal of lived reality when your mandate is simply boosting whatever Democrats say?

Zero tolerance for platforming hate groups and proliferation of racism. Heavy pressure towards online social media companies to police viral hate speech

That's fine if you believe qualified, educated liberals should be making the decisions in our society, but you either believe in democracy or you don't. And it's fine to say you don't and would rather an authoritarian elite class of liberals making decisions unaccountable to the public, but you're probably going to have to drop all the talk about the far-right MAGA threat to Democracy and the whole vision of public power that the listless corpse of the Democratic Party is still coasting on.

I believe in democracy but I believe our education system has failed us which is why Trump was able to pull off the GOAT con job.

Investments in education can solve that problem in the future

It's like saying "My crush SHOULD like me instead of her boyfriend"...yeah well she doesn't. You can either improve your fitness and personality to become more attractive or you can kidnap her. You seem to be suggesting the latter.


Woah, multi-generational? So we're going to suffer through...decades of increasingly right-wing fascism so the Liberals can seed the hicks with technocratic lectures about how the capital flight produced by globalization that has destroyed their economic and social fabric is actually a good thing because the tech firms and wall street financiers don't say the n-word (in public) as they drain the coffers of public prosperity? And then one day, a few generations later, by listening to enough lectures by 78 year old Liberal millionaire politicians, these children of deprivation will become sufficiently anti-racist to vote for the Democrats? And all of this to avoid pushing for universal healthcare/childcare or economics that reign in the private interests to re-fund the public? That's the theory of the future?

Making a giant leap of steel manning my position here. I don’t think neo-liberalism is the best economic strategy going forward.

The problem with our society is that we have too many idiots getting conned by politicians who don’t represent them (Republican Party).

The Republicans as currently constructed could not exist in a society with a well educated populace which cannot be forgotten.

I think that’s the flaw in your political worldview, you generally exclude the Republicans in analysis and attribute them as some force of nature that we’ll always have to contend with so they should be ignored. I think that’s the root of the problem. The Republicans as currently constructed are why our society is regressing.

Rather stifling social, economic, philosophical or environmental progress, the republicans are the roadblock to any type of sustainable progress.

In this hypothetical racism would not be enough of a motivating factor to support an entire political party. The downstream effect of that is you would have two legitimate political parties actually competing for everyone’s votes. That in itself would solve a lot of the criticisms you have for technocracy.