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When would you rather catch cancer? Stage 1 or Stage 4?
You're trying to say: "If you support early cancer treatment, you should also support youth gender transition surgery." But you're ignoring the vast complexity behind gender dysphoria treatment, which involves careful assessment and multidisciplinary care, not a one-size-fits-all surgery. Flattening all medical treatments into the same bucket is a deliberate tactic to confuse people who don't understand this. It's extremely dishonest. I don't know why you think you're going to catch me in that little rhetorical trap you're trying to set up.
 

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You're trying to say: "If you support early cancer treatment, you should also support youth gender transition surgery." But you're ignoring the vast complexity behind gender dysphoria treatment, which involves careful assessment and multidisciplinary care, not a one-size-fits-all surgery. Flattening all medical treatments into the same bucket is a deliberate tactic to confuse people who don't understand this. It's extremely dishonest. I don't know why you think you're going to catch me in that little rhetorical trap you're trying to set up.
Medical advancements happen in adults often before children get access to them. Are you saying that advancements in transitioning services for adults shouldn’t be continually researched so they can be introduced to children?

Insulin, pain medication, chemotherapy, etc. Why are you against allowing kids to get access to transgender surgery and medical interventions?
 

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I think if you had the requisite amount of self awareness, you would realize that your own obsession with this topic is tantamount to mental illness. I would bet a month's salary that your posts constitute at least 50% of the posts in the trans thread. That's not normal behavior at all.




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Medical advancements happen in adults often before children get access to them. Are you saying that advancements in transitioning services for adults shouldn’t be continually researched so they can be introduced to children?
Absolutely, medical advancements should continue to be researched. That's how science works. But research and clinical implementation are two very different things, especially when it comes to minors. We don't just take every adult treatment and apply it to children without rigorous, evidence-based protocols and safeguards.
 

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Absolutely, medical advancements should continue to be researched. That's how science works. But research and clinical implementation are two very different things, especially when it comes to minors. We don't just take every adult treatment and apply it to children without rigorous, evidence-based protocols and safeguards.
Do you believe in your heart-of-hearts that it is possible to “be trans?”

If so, why limit access to care?
 

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Do you believe in your heart-of-hearts that it is possible to “be trans?”

If so, why limit access to care?
I've already addressed the core of the issue clearly and directly. If you want a genuine discussion, engage with those points instead of repeatedly ignoring them and throwing rhetorical questions. Or don't. Sea lion.

 

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You literally deny the existence of trans people, that is not what she is saying. You are twisting her words to back up your own claims.

Individual humans deserve rights and protection from discrimination, harm and assaults and all other abridgments of their personal freedom or autonomy.. I have yet to be persuaded you can “be trans”.

I’m open to discussion.
 

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I've already addressed the core of the issue clearly and directly. If you want a genuine discussion, engage with those points instead of repeatedly ignoring them and throwing rhetorical questions. Or don't. Sea lion.

Rhetorical logical fallacies aren’t going to save you.

Either trans surgeries for youths is good and democrats should support it, or it is not and democrats should not support it.
 

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Individual humans deserve rights and protection from discrimination, harm and assaults and all other abridgments of their personal freedom or autonomy.. I have yet to be persuaded you can “be trans”.

I’m open to discussion.
You stated that trans people have a mental illness, do you feel this way about others with mental illnesses?
 

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Rhetorical logical fallacies aren’t going to save you.

Either trans surgeries for youths is good and democrats should support it, or it is not and democrats should not support it.
I don't need any saving. I've already made my case clearly. You're the one ignoring it by reducing everything to a false binary instead of engaging with it.

Individual humans deserve rights and protection from discrimination, harm and assaults and all other abridgments of their personal freedom or autonomy.. I have yet to be persuaded you can “be trans”.

I’m open to discussion.
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I don't need any saving. I've already made my case clearly. You're the one ignoring it by reducing everything to a false binary instead of engaging with it.


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Gender is the manifestation of sex across society and culture. Gender is not separate from sex.

You can not change your sex.
 

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You stated that trans people have a mental illness, do you feel this way about others with mental illnesses?
Gender dysphoria is literally the diagnosis of the perceived incongruity of one’s sex and a suggested identity.

So either we endorse dysphoria, meaning that you were “born in the wrong body” ...

…or...

…we endorse the notion that the dysphoria is not real and thus you can’t be trans

Which is it?
 

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Gender dysphoria is literally the diagnosis of the perceived incongruity of one’s sex and a suggested identity.

So either we endorse dysphoria, meaning that you were “born in the wrong body” ...

…or...

…we endorse the notion that the dysphoria is not real and thus you can’t be trans

Which is it?
Let’s return to the topic. You claimed that trans people have a mental illness—so I’m curious: do you routinely attack and launch witch hunts against everyone with mental health conditions, or is this particular group treated differently? What makes this one deserving of special hostility in your view?
 
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