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Bernie Sanders Has an Idea for the Left: Don’t Run as Democrats
The Vermont senator, who has long had a tense relationship with the Democratic Party, suggested in an interview that more progressives should join him in running as independents.

March 20, 2025Updated 10:49 a.m. ET
Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont talking into microphones and raising his right hand in front of the Capitol.
Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont is beginning a three-day, five-city swing through Western states alongside Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York. Eric Lee/The New York Times
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Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont has a message for his fellow progressives: Why don’t you shed the Democratic label and run as an independent, the way he does?

Mr. Sanders’s admonition came in an interview with The New York Times on the eve of a three-day, five-city swing through Western states alongside Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York. He predicted that they would draw tens of thousands of people to rally against President Trump, Elon Musk and the influence of billionaires on the American government.

“One of the aspects of this tour is to try to rally people to get engaged in the political process and run as independents outside of the Democratic Party,” Mr. Sanders said in the interview on Wednesday. “There’s a lot of great leadership all over this country at the grass-roots level. We’ve got to bring that forward. And if we do that, we can defeat Trumpism and we can transform the political situation in America.”

The suggestion that would-be leaders of the left should abandon the Democratic Party picks at a political scab that has never fully healed. Mr. Sanders, 83, a longtime independent, has had a tense yet codependent relationship with the party for decades.

While he has never accepted the Democratic label for himself, he is a member of the Senate Democratic caucus and has run under the party brand when it was politically expedient, including his two bids for its presidential nomination. In 2017, he waged a hard-fought but ultimately futile effort to install an ally to lead the Democratic National Committee.

In 2011, Mr. Sanders said during a radio interview that “it would be a good idea if President Obama faced some primary opposition” for his 2012 re-election. The Vermont senator said at the time that he could not do it himself because he was not a Democrat.

But that did not stop him from seeking the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016, when he emerged from relative obscurity to nearly topple Hillary Clinton, and again in 2020, when he was the last major Democratic primary rival to Joseph R. Biden Jr. In each contest, Mr. Sanders’s lack of party affiliation bubbled beneath the surface and drew pointed pushback from his primary rivals.

Mrs. Clinton, during an interview with Politico in 2016, described Mr. Sanders as “a relatively new Democrat, and, in fact, I’m not even sure he is one.” She added: “He’s running as one. So I don’t know quite how to characterize him.”

Four years later, Mr. Biden, days before his fourth-place finish in the Iowa caucuses, took a similar swipe at Mr. Sanders.

“I’m a Democrat,” Mr. Biden told reporters outside a Dairy Queen in Pella, Iowa. “He says he’s not. He says — you know, he’s not registered as a Democrat, to the best of my knowledge.”

Mr. Sanders’s remarks this week come at a moment of rising anger toward Democratic leaders and a tarnished public image for the party. A CNN poll released this week found that 52 percent of Democrats believed their leaders were steering the party in the wrong direction. Among the public overall, the party’s favorability rating was just 29 percent — the lowest level since the network’s polling firm began asking the question in 1992.

Ken Martin, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, declined to comment on Mr. Sanders’s remarks.

During the interview on Wednesday, Mr. Sanders repeatedly criticized the influence of wealthy donors and Washington consultants on the party. He said that while Democrats had been a force for good on social issues like civil rights, women’s rights and L.G.B.T.Q. rights, they had failed on the economic concerns he has dedicated his political career to addressing.

“If there’s any hope for the Democratic Party, it is that they’re going to have to reach out — open the doors and let working-class people in, let working-class leadership come into the party,” he said. “If not, people will be running as independents, I think, all over this country.”

Reid J. Epstein covers campaigns and elections from Washington. Before joining The Times in 2019, he worked at The Wall Street Journal, Politico, Newsday and The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. More about Reid J. Epstein
 

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Bernie Sanders Has an Idea for the Left: Don’t Run as Democrats
The Vermont senator, who has long had a tense relationship with the Democratic Party, suggested in an interview that more progressives should join him in running as independents.

March 20, 2025Updated 10:49 a.m. ET
Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont talking into microphones and raising his right hand in front of the Capitol.
Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont is beginning a three-day, five-city swing through Western states alongside Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York. Eric Lee/The New York Times
Sign up for the Tilt newsletter, for Times subscribers only. Nate Cohn, The Times’s chief political analyst, makes sense of the latest political data.

Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont has a message for his fellow progressives: Why don’t you shed the Democratic label and run as an independent, the way he does?

Mr. Sanders’s admonition came in an interview with The New York Times on the eve of a three-day, five-city swing through Western states alongside Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York. He predicted that they would draw tens of thousands of people to rally against President Trump, Elon Musk and the influence of billionaires on the American government.

“One of the aspects of this tour is to try to rally people to get engaged in the political process and run as independents outside of the Democratic Party,” Mr. Sanders said in the interview on Wednesday. “There’s a lot of great leadership all over this country at the grass-roots level. We’ve got to bring that forward. And if we do that, we can defeat Trumpism and we can transform the political situation in America.”

The suggestion that would-be leaders of the left should abandon the Democratic Party picks at a political scab that has never fully healed. Mr. Sanders, 83, a longtime independent, has had a tense yet codependent relationship with the party for decades.

While he has never accepted the Democratic label for himself, he is a member of the Senate Democratic caucus and has run under the party brand when it was politically expedient, including his two bids for its presidential nomination. In 2017, he waged a hard-fought but ultimately futile effort to install an ally to lead the Democratic National Committee.

In 2011, Mr. Sanders said during a radio interview that “it would be a good idea if President Obama faced some primary opposition” for his 2012 re-election. The Vermont senator said at the time that he could not do it himself because he was not a Democrat.

But that did not stop him from seeking the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016, when he emerged from relative obscurity to nearly topple Hillary Clinton, and again in 2020, when he was the last major Democratic primary rival to Joseph R. Biden Jr. In each contest, Mr. Sanders’s lack of party affiliation bubbled beneath the surface and drew pointed pushback from his primary rivals.

Mrs. Clinton, during an interview with Politico in 2016, described Mr. Sanders as “a relatively new Democrat, and, in fact, I’m not even sure he is one.” She added: “He’s running as one. So I don’t know quite how to characterize him.”

Four years later, Mr. Biden, days before his fourth-place finish in the Iowa caucuses, took a similar swipe at Mr. Sanders.

“I’m a Democrat,” Mr. Biden told reporters outside a Dairy Queen in Pella, Iowa. “He says he’s not. He says — you know, he’s not registered as a Democrat, to the best of my knowledge.”

Mr. Sanders’s remarks this week come at a moment of rising anger toward Democratic leaders and a tarnished public image for the party. A CNN poll released this week found that 52 percent of Democrats believed their leaders were steering the party in the wrong direction. Among the public overall, the party’s favorability rating was just 29 percent — the lowest level since the network’s polling firm began asking the question in 1992.

Ken Martin, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, declined to comment on Mr. Sanders’s remarks.

During the interview on Wednesday, Mr. Sanders repeatedly criticized the influence of wealthy donors and Washington consultants on the party. He said that while Democrats had been a force for good on social issues like civil rights, women’s rights and L.G.B.T.Q. rights, they had failed on the economic concerns he has dedicated his political career to addressing.

“If there’s any hope for the Democratic Party, it is that they’re going to have to reach out — open the doors and let working-class people in, let working-class leadership come into the party,” he said. “If not, people will be running as independents, I think, all over this country.”

Reid J. Epstein covers campaigns and elections from Washington. Before joining The Times in 2019, he worked at The Wall Street Journal, Politico, Newsday and The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. More about Reid J. Epstein

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Lately, the 46-year-old’s name is among the first to come up in conversation.
“Wes Moore is the Captain America of Democratic politics,” said Jamal Simmons, a prominent party strategist who worked for former Vice President Kamala Harris. “He’s a veteran, an athlete and a Rhodes Scholar who still connects with everyday people"


what do we think, after 2024 :patrice:
 

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They really do :mjlol: they think " more of the same" "adults in the room" isn't policy positions that should get it done :mjlol:
nobody gives a fukk who you vote for :mjlol:

as a far leftist, the choice between a moderate democrat and MAGA should be no choice at all. and if you won't vote for the dem, don't bytch about how the MAGA governs the country
 
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Lately, the 46-year-old’s name is among the first to come up in conversation.
“Wes Moore is the Captain America of Democratic politics,” said Jamal Simmons, a prominent party strategist who worked for former Vice President Kamala Harris. “He’s a veteran, an athlete and a Rhodes Scholar who still connects with everyday people"


what do we think, after 2024 :patrice:
Look at FAHs Wes Moore thread. It’s easy to see what the complaint in 2028 will be about him.

“I just can’t support someone who devoted his life to americas destruction around the world”

“How can we be sure he won’t be beholden to the corporate war machine once he’s in office?”

“Did he ever say Biden should be taken to The Hague? If not what warlord will he support next?”
 

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People like this guy wants the Obama era back without understanding the failings of that era lead us here. People like Noah Smith need to be stuffed in a locker.
and people like you aren't gonna be happy with the 2028 nominee unless his name is Bernie Ocasio Obama

but they/them is not walking through the door :mjlol:
 

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People like this guy wants the Obama era back without understanding the failings of that era lead us here. People like Noah Smith need to be stuffed in a locker.
Can we just go back to pretending racism doesn't exist those were such great times. This new radical approach in acknowledging racism existing turns off voters! Can we please think about how the cac mamba will feel if he had to live with the fact that he may be racist :mjcry:
 

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Can we just go back to pretending racism doesn't exist those were such great times. This new radical approach in acknowledging racism existing turns off voters! Can we please think about how the cac mamba will feel if he had to live with the fact that he may be racist :mjcry:
that applies to you too. there is zero scenario where you're happy with the 2028 democratic nominee :mjlol:

the sheer level of weird nonsense you demand from your perfect candidate, assures their quick elimination in the primary. they'll be toast in the south
 

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if this party is truly stupid enough to double down on kamala '28, i might have to leave it. the humiliation would be too much

but i dont believe this :mjlol:someone please tell me this is fake news
 

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if this party is truly stupid enough to double down on kamala '28, i might have to leave it. the humiliation would be too much

but i dont believe this :mjlol:someone please tell me this is fake news

these are just vibes based polls….the numbers all shift once people jump in and the race actually starts

Remember, Hillary Clinton was the most favorable democrat in the country for like 5+ straight years until 2016.
 

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Look at FAHs Wes Moore thread. It’s easy to see what the complaint in 2028 will be about him.

“I just can’t support someone who devoted his life to americas destruction around the world”

“How can we be sure he won’t be beholden to the corporate war machine once he’s in office?”

“Did he ever say Biden should be taken to The Hague? If not what warlord will he support next?”
good thing this happened early...


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