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I think he was probably right to run to the Republicans so blatantly. Because you end up with two parties engaging in a suck off; but the Repubs are always going to go a little further.

Trump ushered in racism and bigotry being ok again. Why wouldn't that extend to jews as well and by extension Israel? Israel-skepticism, to put it mildly, being a foundational pillar of these alt right weirdos like Fuentes. Even Kirk would kind of shyt on them I think.

Basically in any other timeline linking Epstien to Israel and creating some kind of crazy conspiracy eoild be blatant anti-Semitism but it's plain as day there was some relationship at least financial and almost certainly politics.

Through their embracing of Trump it's kind of like they're hastening their own demise politically.
I don't think its unreasonable to see a future where Israel/AIPAC allow a certain level of critcism and then still funnel money to the candidate as we saw with Foushee. Newsom seems like a prime candidate for such an arrangement. Especially as we see a staff member of his trying to clean up his comments after the fact.
The Israel 1st democrats are disgusting
Well see if Schumer and Jeffries are made to account for their position.
 

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This nikka may have the moral and philosophical code of a chameleon but his social media team is GOAT status :mjlol:


"Next were going to look what can only be interpreted as a psychotic threat on former director of DHS Kristi noems life by Governor of California Gavin Newsom, the poster-child for Trump derangement syndrome. Him doing something this while our troops are defending this country is disgusting and I hope the FBI looks into how credible this threat is.

Now, well take a look about the fun plans Trump and Rubio may have for Cuba after the break." - FOX News
 

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I ain't gonna lie. Folks protest voted or didn't vote over Israel in the last election and now they're mad they don't have enough votes to stop a US Israel tag team war.

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? People voted for biden in 2020 and he facilitated a genocide with israel tf are you talking about lol. His point stands. Controlled opposition
 

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? People voted for biden in 2020 and he facilitated a genocide with israel tf are you talking about lol. His point stands. Controlled opposition
Buddy acting like the Dem defection count is a naturally occurring phenomenon that is just coincidentally always pegged to the exact number needed to have the vote go the other way:mjlol:

"If only we had voted in one more Dem! :sadbron:"
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Devastating to know Trump could have been stopped dead in his tracks and not one more bomb would have fallen if it wasn’t for the Dems, yet again

To be fair, I'm not sure if we can say this for sure.

Trump is not ideological, he believes nothing. I don't think Trump cares what happens to Israel one way or another, but I think the money that he gets from donors like Miriam Adelson is what motivates his support from Israel.

Biden was a devotee to Israel, decades after he met with Israeli Prime Minister Golda Maier he was still talking about that meeting. Biden was devoted to Israel in a way that I don't think is comparable to any President in since Israel's founding.

Then we look at Congress, look at the number of Dems in Congress who seemingly prioritize Israel over US interests. Schumer, Moskowitz, Gottheimer, Jeffries, etc.

You are right in that Trump's lunacy is unique, Biden did not have his insane belief that regime change is something that can be easily done and has no downside. Biden also had a knowledge of history that Trump lacks that would have countervailed his motivation to do this.

But many Democrats are equally hawkish on Iran, why are they even thinking about funding this stupid fukking war? Why are they juelzing so much when it comes to whether this war was justified or not? Why did Biden not immediately re-enter the JCPOA when he became President? Regarding the current conflict, why does every reply have to start with how bad the Ayotallah was and how evil the regime is rather than address the fact that the Administration still cannot articulate a coherent justification for why this war was necessary?

Gavin Newsom is the perfect example of how wish washy the Dems are on the issue of Israel, they know it is deeply unpopular with the base and that their strategy and statements on Israel has to change for the survival of their political careers.

But I don't know how one can confidently say that a Biden Administration and a Dem Majority wouldn't have done stupid shyt on behalf of Israel. Trump doesn't give a shyt about Palestinians, but he has pushed back more on Netanyahu when it comes to the genocide in Gaza than Biden ever did.
 

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To be fair, I'm not sure if we can say this for sure.

Trump is not ideological, he believes nothing. I don't think Trump cares what happens to Israel one way or another, but I think the money that he gets from donors like Miriam Adelson is what motivates his support from Israel.

Biden was a devotee to Israel, decades after he met with Israeli Prime Minister Golda Maier he was still talking about that meeting. Biden was devoted to Israel in a way that I don't think is comparable to any President in since Israel's founding.

Then we look at Congress, look at the number of Dems in Congress who seemingly prioritize Israel over US interests. Schumer, Moskowitz, Gottheimer, Jeffries, etc.

You are right in that Trump's lunacy is unique, Biden did not have his insane belief that regime change is something that can be easily done and has no downside. Biden also had a knowledge of history that Trump lacks that would have countervailed his motivation to do this.

But many Democrats are equally hawkish on Iran, why are they even thinking about funding this stupid fukking war? Why are they juelzing so much when it comes to whether this war was justified or not? Why did Biden not immediately re-enter the JCPOA when he became President? Regarding the current conflict, why does every reply have to start with how bad the Ayotallah was and how evil the regime is rather than address the fact that the Administration still cannot articulate a coherent justification for why this war was necessary?

Gavin Newsom is the perfect example of how wish washy the Dems are on the issue of Israel, they know it is deeply unpopular with the base and that their strategy and statements on Israel has to change for the survival of their political careers.

But I don't know how one can confidently say that a Biden Administration and a Dem Majority wouldn't have done stupid shyt on behalf of Israel. Trump doesn't give a shyt about Palestinians, but he has pushed back more on Netanyahu when it comes to the genocide in Gaza than Biden ever did.
Schumer basically was calling Trump soft for wanting to make a deal with Iran
 

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To be fair, I'm not sure if we can say this for sure.

Trump is not ideological, he believes nothing. I don't think Trump cares what happens to Israel one way or another, but I think the money that he gets from donors like Miriam Adelson is what motivates his support from Israel.

Biden was a devotee to Israel, decades after he met with Israeli Prime Minister Golda Maier he was still talking about that meeting. Biden was devoted to Israel in a way that I don't think is comparable to any President in since Israel's founding.

Then we look at Congress, look at the number of Dems in Congress who seemingly prioritize Israel over US interests. Schumer, Moskowitz, Gottheimer, Jeffries, etc.

You are right in that Trump's lunacy is unique, Biden did not have his insane belief that regime change is something that can be easily done and has no downside. Biden also had a knowledge of history that Trump lacks that would have countervailed his motivation to do this.

But many Democrats are equally hawkish on Iran, why are they even thinking about funding this stupid fukking war? Why are they juelzing so much when it comes to whether this war was justified or not? Why did Biden not immediately re-enter the JCPOA when he became President? Regarding the current conflict, why does every reply have to start with how bad the Ayotallah was and how evil the regime is rather than address the fact that the Administration still cannot articulate a coherent justification for why this war was necessary?

Gavin Newsom is the perfect example of how wish washy the Dems are on the issue of Israel, they know it is deeply unpopular with the base and that their strategy and statements on Israel has to change for the survival of their political careers.

But I don't know how one can confidently say that a Biden Administration and a Dem Majority wouldn't have done stupid shyt on behalf of Israel. Trump doesn't give a shyt about Palestinians, but he has pushed back more on Netanyahu when it comes to the genocide in Gaza than Biden ever did.
As opposed to some of our friends here, I would have loved to find out the answers to some of those questions rather than live through Trump and I’m sure all the people across the globe whose lives were ended/ruined directly due to the decisions of his administration would agree

Also, Biden wasn’t on the ballot :smugbiden:
 

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