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Okay, I see now that you just want to build up a shield that protects Israel
Nope. I said Israel commits war crimes, I deny what they are doing is genocide.
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engaging in selective skepticism of the UN, and trying to poison the well by bringing up people irrelevant to this conversation.
I can be selectively skeptical about the UN same I am selectively skeptical about any organization. Does the UN do some good? Yeah. Is it flawed and subject to the same political partisanship as any other organization? Yep.

Every time I challenged your "standard," you replaced it with something else. It's impossible to satisfy a constantly shifting criteria.

I gave you my list of what I deem constitutes genocide. Where do you disagree? I haven’t shifted anything.



I've explained the standard used in international law and by every serious body that evaluates these things. If you want to use a different, narrower definition, that's your choice, but then we're not actually having the same conversation.
What international law? The UN committee merely made a recommendation to the ICC which hasn’t ruled yet.

In fact here are the countries that say Israel, is or isn’t committing genocide in Gaza

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Recognition of genocide in green.
No genocide in Blue
Unclear in pink
No comment in gray


As you can clearly see, it’s political. Western aligned countries are either say no, no decision or waiting for ICC ruling. Russia has ethnic ties to Israel so no comment. Countries aligned against the US or West say it’s genocide.


Can you explain to me why there was no UN committee set up to examine the war in Ukraine, forced removal of 100,000 Armenians, or China’s destruction of Uyghur identity. Or do you think these fall outside the accepted definition of genocide?





Can you summarize how these documents support your argument?
 

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Fun argument, but with Gazans not being involved in Trumps board of peace responsible for rebuilding Gaza it’s really hard to in good faith argue otherwise.
 

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Klein years behind still but its good to have the biggest liberal voice "waking up" to the fact that israel is an illiberal country

 

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:mjlol: i still don't know who this guy is, but he needs to shut the fukk up. is he aware that the Berlin wall's purpose was to stop the communist side from leaving?

It’s less to do with communism and more to do with the tankie (a slur that comes from leftists supporting Soviets sending tanks to crush the Hungarian revolution) belief that the world was more peaceful and fair when the US had a military rival in the Soviets.


That since the US became a hyper power the world is somehow more miserable and filled with wars. Russia and China today are just as capitalist as America but the main thing is they oppose America which is in tankie discourse, the great satan.

Of course anyone with a cursory knowledge of history knows the Cold War was an extremely chaotic period filled with wars with instances like Nixon stepping in to stop Russia from nuking China


You’ll see them use phrases like “multi-polarity” a lot. When Russia’s invaded Ukraine, or China threatens its neighbors who are allies with the US, it’s good.
 

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:mjlol: i still don't know who this guy is, but he needs to shut the fukk up. is he aware that the Berlin wall's purpose was to stop the communist side from leaving?

He’s not a politician!

Now *insert politician running for office endorsed by mr piker* do you agree that the fall of the USSR was a catastrophe?

Can we get back to talking about the price of gas please :whoa:
 
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