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US supreme court expedites Voting Rights Act ruling so Louisiana can redraw its maps for midterms

Ketanji Brown Jackson blasted the decision, saying the court has hastened it ruling only twice before in 25 years

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@wire28 @Pressure

 

[Mister Terrific]

Jokes write themselves

 

[Pressure]

Jokes write themselves

Weren’t them boys in here complaining about dems reaching out to republicans

 

[Mister Terrific]

Weren’t them boys in here complaining about dems reaching out to republicans

One of the all stars was in the lounge promoting Tucker Carlson, so I think it’s more of what kind of Republican you reach out to.

 

[Jugernot]

Weren’t them boys in here complaining about dems reaching out to republicans

I'm not sure about specific posters on this site, because I'm barely on here. But, the overall leftist populist position is not that you shouldn't talk to republican voters. It's that you shouldn't capitulate to Republican talking points to win them over (It just won't work like it didn't for Harris). Platner doesn't concede to Republicans on immigration, trans issues or anything else the left believes in and he will likely win in a purple state.

 

[Jugernot]

Remember, Bernie Sanders went to a Fox news townhall and won over the audience. AOC had a decent amount of past Trump voters vote for her and 10% of Trump voters ended up going for Mamdani.

 

[Mister Terrific]

I'm not sure about specific posters on this site, because I'm barely on here. But, the overall leftist populist position is not that you shouldn't talk to republicans. It's that you shouldn't capitulate to Republican talking points to win them over (It just won't work like it didn't for Harris). Platner doesn't concede to Republicans on immigration, trans issues or anything else the left believes in and he will likely win in a purple state.

Maine hasn’t voted for a Republican since 1988. The governor is a Democrat. Susan Collins is a Republican but a very soft R, the other senator an independent who caucuses with the Dems . Both Representatives are democrats.

There are almost 100,000 more registered democrats in the state than Republicans. Pro- trans rights, one of the first states to legalize gay marriage, and pro-choice.

How red or blue is your state? | USAFacts

In the last ten elections, 41 states voted for the same party eight times or more.

usafacts.org

Maine is your typical northeastern state only slightly more conservative than its neighbors New Hampshire and Vermont. Overwhelming white. So progressive policies are easier to push when there is not chance they might benefit a Black person.


Consorting with Trumpers over your similar love of guns and German history might work there but it remains to be seen if you are going to sell that brand of politics in North Carolina or Georgia where there are actual minorities who remember segregation.

 

[Jugernot]

Maine hasn’t voted for a Republican since 1988. The governor is a Democrat. Susan Collins is a Republican but a very soft R, the other senator an independent who caucuses with the Dems . Both Representatives are democrats.

There are almost 100,000 more registered democrats in the state than Republicans. Pro- trans rights, one of the first states to legalize gay marriage, and pro-choice.

How red or blue is your state? | USAFacts

In the last ten elections, 41 states voted for the same party eight times or more.

usafacts.org

Maine is your typical northeastern state only slightly more conservative than its neighbors New Hampshire and Vermont. Overwhelming white. So progressive policies are easier to push when there is not chance they might benefit a Black person.


Consorting with Trumpers over your similar love of guns and German history might work there but it remains to be seen if you are going to sell that brand of politics in North Carolina or Georgia where there are actual minorities who remember segregation.

You said Maine hasn't voted for a Republican since 1988, but Maine voted for a Republican in 1997 and has continued to vote for her until 2026 when she will lose. What are you even talking about? And in the upcoming elections we will see more anti-establishment dems win. I am sure the corporate establishment will do everything in their power to try to stop them, but it won't work all of the time. People are fed up, don't trust either party and actual good candidates will seep through despite the millions and millions poured against them.

 

[Mister Terrific]

You said Maine hasn't voted for a Republican since 1988, but Maine voted for a Republican in 1997 and has continued to vote for her until 2026 when she will lose. What are you even talking about? And in the upcoming elections we will see more anti-establishment dems win. I am sure the corporate establishment will do everything in their power to try to stop them, but it won't work all of the time. People are fed up, don't trust either party and actual good candidates will seep through despite the millions and millions poured against them.

Hasn’t voted a republican president.

As for Susan I addressed that. Susan Collins is a soft R and is usually the only Republican representative in the state. This isn’t North Carolina or Georgia or the rust belt. Never mind we are talking about completely different demographic realities.

I understand the far left has to magnify his potential victory (actually read something on Reddit that some of his comments towards minorities are going to be released soon) because they are so bereft of success recently, but that playbook is unlikely to work with states with actual minorities where you’ll have to answer questions about your past decisions. “What do you mean dark time in your life” and being pro-choice and pro-lgbtq isn’t going to play well with a lot of voters in other areas.

Never mind that your average Black person who had voting rights stripped doesn’t really want to see you paling around with boomer white men who are only upset the blow back is hurting them as well. We don’t really care about winning Trump voters over. That ship as sailed. Honestly it’s disgusting when people suggest it as if we don’t have ample evidence that when the time comes they will vote their racial grievances.

I prefer establishment dems like the CIA agent who won in Virginia and is rapidly transforming that state into a progressive haven. Don’t really care for the firebrands who may or may not go on Tucker Carlson to talk about the ZOG agenda.

 

[John Reena]

The goal post moving over Nazi Tat Man interacting with republicans vs Kamala interacting with republicans is hilarious.

“Oh it’s okay for Nazi Tat because he didn’t * insert ridiculous excuse*”

 

[wire28]

Jokes write themselves

I give him 3 years

 

[acri1]

The goal post moving over Nazi Tat Man interacting with republicans vs Kamala interacting with republicans is hilarious.

“Oh it’s okay for Nazi Tat because he didn’t * insert ridiculous excuse*”

Well they think maybe it'll work better for him since he's a white guy and isn't automatically perceived as a woke DEI candidate


My bigger concern is that he's just pretending to be a Democrat and will just be another Fetterman

 

[Pressure]

The goal post moving over Nazi Tat Man interacting with republicans vs Kamala interacting with republicans is hilarious.

“Oh it’s okay for Nazi Tat because he didn’t * insert ridiculous excuse*”

Consorting with republicans who want to imprison Trump == bad

Quadrupling down on Economic anxiety == good

I give him 3 years

Well they think maybe it'll work better for him since he's a white guy and isn't automatically perceived as a woke DEI candidate


My bigger concern is that he's just pretending to be a Democrat and will just be another Fetterman

These are real concerns. He’s not a very policy heavy guy and isn’t making detailed policy positions nor is he making strong ethical policy arguments.

As a result you aren’t seeing him be very critical of republican/trump/maga policies.

Instead, you kind of have a few base positions he says he stands for, but he doesn’t really want to talk about, “these are distractions.”

As a result conversations with Tucker or the 3 time maga voter can come across as Trump apologia.

The key point being his criticisms aren’t so much that maga voters and the policies they’ve supported via Trump are bad, but more so we should feel bad for them because Trump had a prioritization issue.

The fact that’s very openly pandering to these people along with his own personal tidbits suggests to me that he’s going to have his fetterman, Collin’s, murkowski, manchin moments on any initiative that he considers a distraction.

He has a good chance of winning so we shall see. And personally I don’t care as long as he doesn’t miss the forest for the trees, but his approach isn’t going to excite black voters in the south who don’t view racism as a purely economic issue.

 

[mastermind]

Vote blue no matter who

Except vote for soft Republicans that vote 90% of the time with Trump because always support the current establishment.

I watched the vid and they agreed on improving the VA since its a sign of a good government ran system that trump is destroying and modeling other healthcare off it, raising social securtiy to tax wealthy people more—currently only taxes up to $166,000 of income, and stopping corporate ownership of land.

 

[mastermind]

I'm not sure about specific posters on this site, because I'm barely on here. But, the overall leftist populist position is not that you shouldn't talk to republican voters. It's that you shouldn't capitulate to Republican talking points to win them over (It just won't work like it didn't for Harris). Platner doesn't concede to Republicans on immigration, trans issues or anything else the left believes in and he will likely win in a purple state.

Platner isn’t even a leftist. He just believes in something and articulates it, and it is against the current establishment order.

Most people on here aren’t that serious about policy and will more than likely vote for and support someone like Platner and if they end up on the ballot in their state.