Derek Rose = Penny Hardaway.. Grant Hill

[the cool]

You didn't call this neg though

Dapped for the neg

 

[The Goodz]

Neither of those guys were half as good as D.Rose in his MVP year. I'm tired of nikkas putting a Penny on this mythical mountain top.

you 90s babies missed the golden era of the NBA

 

[NSSVO]

Jay Williams to Derrick Rosay. I guess MJ has to be equaled out somehow.

 

[The_Third_Man]

Penny was really good, but he wasn't on the same level as Grant Hill. A year before he got injured, Hill was averaging 26ppg, 7 rpg, 5 apg, and 1.5 spg while being the main ball handler on his team. He was Lebron before Lebron.

Pre-injury Rose was clearly better than Penny though.

So it goes like this Grant Hill > Rose > Penny

 

[frush11]

damn i cant wish that penny shyt on him

penny should have been one of the GOATS, now nikkas my generation think he tim hardaway injury prone brother

I remember copping them shoes he wore in the Olympics

 

[Carlos Huerta]

2nd year in the league 20 pts 10 rebounds 7 asssists agame

3rd year in the league 21pts 9 rebounds 7 assists a game

ankel fukked up his prime but sitll average 20 ppg on Orlando when Dwight was there.

Rose's 3rd year -

25pts 4 rebounds 8 assists

 

[DoubleClutch]

Penny was really good, but he wasn't on the same level as Grant Hill. A year before he got injured, Hill was averaging 26ppg, 7 rpg, 5 apg, and 1.5 spg while being the main ball handler on his team. He was Lebron before Lebron.

Pre-injury Rose was clearly better than Penny though.

So it goes like this Grant Hill > Rose > Penny

Penny was more talented than both of them. We can really make a case of grant vs penny, but Rose is clearly 3rd.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Penny was really good, but he wasn't on the same level as Grant Hill. A year before he got injured, Hill was averaging 26ppg, 7 rpg, 5 apg, and 1.5 spg while being the main ball handler on his team. He was Lebron before Lebron.

Pre-injury Rose was clearly better than Penny though.

So it goes like this Grant Hill > Rose > Penny

Penny had 3 elite, top level years thats it..

But these coli dudes love Penny like cooked food and will swear up and down that he could dunk from the nosebleed seats in any arena while eating a hotdog and cutting his toenails..

 

[The_Third_Man]

Penny had 3 elite, top level years thats it..

But these coli dudes love Penny like cooked food and will swear up and down that he could dunk from the nosebleed seats in any arena while eating a hotdog and cutting his toenails..

Exactly. I wouldn't call 20 ppg, 5-7 apg "elite level" though.Thats more like Kyrie Irving/Lillard level.Great, but not elite/mvp worthy. People here are obsessed with the 90s like crazy.
they forgot how amazing 2010-2011 Rose was.

 

[Da King]

Penny was walking on water status the year after Shaq left Orlando. nikka was rocking mickey mouse bandaids long before Nelly. Anfernee will forever be that nikka.

Those full court dunks he'd make on the regular were :3wow:

These kids just don't know

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

Penny was really good, but he wasn't on the same level as Grant Hill. A year before he got injured, Hill was averaging 26ppg, 7 rpg, 5 apg, and 1.5 spg while being the main ball handler on his team. He was Lebron before Lebron.

Pre-injury Rose was clearly better than Penny though.

So it goes like this Grant Hill > Rose > Penny

CLEARLY better?

nope, sorry. at best i'll take "arguably" better... and even that feels like a lil bit of a reach cause i'm not sure if i even believe it.

penny helped lead his team to a finals in his second year.

 

[Beerus]

Try to build a team with only a PG after seing how the iverson experiment in Philly failed brehs

Bulls ruined Rose

 

[dagreenz]

he should follow suit and go to phoenix. they re-build ankles there.

dragic for rose

Never imagined back then that a comment like ^^^ would ever be a possibility...

 

[Perfectson]

Penny was more talented than both of them. We can really make a case of grant vs penny, but Rose is clearly 3rd.

You;re sick in the head. No one is going to honesty cosign that.

There's nothing that Penny does that Hill couldn't do...NOTHING. Hill on the other hand was a better defender

GRANT HILL
You know the story of Grant Hill’s entrance to the league, how he was the next Michael Jordan. Which means you know about his ankle surgeries from 2000-04, his could-have-been-fatal infection in his post-surgery ankle and his career suddenly on the rocks. Knowing all of that — seeing his rise in Phoenix as a born-again bionic man who still took an opponent’s best player on defense — how would you describe Hill?

In a league that champions its gunners, there has to be an immense level of appreciation for the offensive sacrifice Hill took in his prime to produce the way he did. Yes, he was Detroit’s best option from ’94-’00, but he was never the offensive player he could have been because of his effort on defense and distribution, picking up averages of 21.4 points, nine boards and 7.4 assists in ’96-97, or 20.2, 9.8 and 6.2 in ’95-96. Able to make his team better, Detroit went from 28 wins in his rookie season to 46 and 54 by year three.

Hill may not have enjoyed the comparisons to MJ, but he never shied away from their head-to-head matchups. In 15 games against one another from 1995 to 2003, Hill had eight double-doubles and three triple-doubles and came within an assist of a fourth. (That doesn’t include a classic game on Jan. 3, 1998 where Hill went for 31 points, seven boards, six assists and six steals vs. Jordan’s 34 points, nine assists and nine steals.)

It’s that ease, on each end of the floor, that brings me back to taking Hill. It’s a sense of knowing you’re being fooled and still believing, like the eyes seeing the 6-8 forward draining himself on both ends of the court but the brain understanding it as effortless. As true as an NBA on NBC broadcast in the early afternoon, Hill made it look that way even when it wasn’t.

So this smoothness, is it exclusive to Hill? Of course not; however, Hill’s true gift was making every single part of his game just look that way.[.quote]

http://dimemag.com/2013/08/who-was-better-pre-injuries-grant-hill-penny-hardaway-or-tracy-mcgrady/


Penny had a way better team with Shaq in the middle - Grant was the MAN on Detroits team - literally willed them into the playoffs with a up and coming Allan Houston.

 

[Liquid]

Neither of those guys were half as good as D.Rose in his MVP year. I'm tired of nikkas putting a Penny on this mythical mountain top.