Derrick Rose VS Russell Westbrook (No Injuries)

Derrick Rose VS Russell Westbrook


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:why: Lebron is one of the best defenders of all time... and was guarding a 22 year old. What kind of example is this?

Did we not just watch Westbrook get frustrated by Steph of all people and get his pocket picked ad nauseum in the WCF? He wasnt looking too godly then was he?

Like I said, im not trying to shyt on Russ, he is a certified baller. But in terms of impressiveness, Rose was downright baffling with what he was able to do on the court.

A 6'8 270 lbs player kept up with the "explosive" Rose, whom stood at 6'4 and 190 lbs


Not so explosive in My eyes
 

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I'm going with the guy who went undefeated with 18 triple doubles last yeat
 

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A 6'8 270 lbs player kept up with the "explosive" Rose, whom stood at 6'4 and 190 lbs


Not so explosive in My eyes

Rose more like 6'2 and the half.

If u think rose wasn't that explosive in 2011 then u should stop talking basketball. Derrick Rose was the most explosive point guard ever alongside Westbrook
 

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:why: Lebron is one of the best defenders of all time... and was guarding a 22 year old. What kind of example is this?

Did we not just watch Westbrook get frustrated by Steph of all people and get his pocket picked ad nauseum in the WCF? He wasnt looking too godly then was he?

Like I said, im not trying to shyt on Russ, he is a certified baller. But in terms of impressiveness, Rose was downright baffling with what he was able to do on the court.

Rose was getting shytted on by rookie and sophomore Steph Curry:yeshrug:

Curry is better than both so its ok
 

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Rose more like 6'2 and the half.

If u think rose wasn't that explosive in 2011 then u should stop talking basketball. Derrick Rose was the most explosive point guard ever alongside Westbrook

And he still got shut down by a 270 pound player whom shadowed his every movement on defense
 

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Reality is Rose would blow by Bron and get funneled to 2 or 3 people waiting for him in the paint

That's an aspect of defense :dwillhuh:

Rose couldn't create enough space from Lebron and break off of him enough to get to his positions to score. Do people think lockdown defense just means that you guard him, one on one, and no other teammates can help?

The ability to see your help defense and funnel you opponents into them before they can take advantage of the rotation IS defense.

In 2011, Rose become more and more hesitant to attack or throw passes when Lebron was guarding him because he wasn't able to put himself in a reliable position to score.
 

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That's an aspect of defense :dwillhuh:

Rose couldn't create enough space from Lebron and break off of him enough to get to his positions to score. Do people think lockdown defense just means that you guard him, one on one, and no other teammates can help?

The ability to see your help defense and funnel you opponents into them before they can take advantage of the rotation IS defense.

In 2011, Rose become more and more hesitant to attack or throw passes when Lebron was guarding him because he wasn't able to put himself in a reliable position to score.

When did I say any of that? The myth is Bron played lock down D on Rose when the reality is it was just great team defense and the Bulls had no other players who could create with the ball

Stop being obtuse and acting like you don't know what I mean by lockdown man to man D
 

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Rose was better pre-injuries but in that time span he's been hurt, Russ has ascended to another level. Maybe Rose would've did the same if his health permitted, maybe not, we'll never know.

Not getting into hypotheticals, I think Russ right now is better than Rose ever was
 

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the bulls surrounding rose with one of the worse offensive cast in 2011.
Heat basically sunk their defense in the paint and everytime rose beat lebron he was swarmed by 3 guys in the paint.

Guess what happens when he kicked the ball out to bogawd, korver, boozer, watson etc... (brick brick brick) Rose NEVER played with anyone starting alongside him before his ACL injury that could create their own shot and take pressure off of him offensively. Imagine MVP rose playing with jimmy butler, gasol, and mirotich in 2011. Would've been a different series.

rose and durant would've probably won 2 titles by now if rose stays injury free.
 

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the bulls surrounding rose with one of the worse offensive cast in 2011.
Heat basically sunk their defense in the paint and everytime rose beat lebron he was swarmed by 3 guys in the paint.

Guess what happens when he kicked the ball out to bogawd, korver, boozer, watson etc... (brick brick brick) Rose NEVER played with anyone starting alongside him before his ACL injury that could create their own shot and take pressure off of him offensively. Imagine MVP rose playing with jimmy butler, gasol, and mirotich in 2011. Would've been a different series.

rose and durant would've probably won 2 titles by now if rose stays injury free.
Shooting %s from that ECF:

Deng 42%
Boozer 40%
Noah 32%
Bogawd 30% 3P
Korver 29% 3P
Watson 25% 3P

:scust:
 
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