destroying property/looting/physically harming others is NOT the answer!...

[rapbeats]

How many people have died?


In the typical fashion of most riots, which is the destruction of the city in which they reside, this isn't any different than any other riot. It's probably less extreme... Because like I said, how many people are DEAD because of these riots?


No one gives a fukk when college students riot on their campus, over a fukking football game. Or a fukking hockey game... Or Soccer

Like I said before, it's about bringing attention to the cause of the riot. Just about every riot ever in history has destroyed the area where those people live in.

Only reason why it doesn't spill into the white/suburban areas is because the whites and suburban a as a whole don't give a fukk about the killing of an unarmed black teen that was already labeled a thug without any proof of him being so. So blacks rioting in that type of area would be an automatic kill on sight... Most of us know that.





Honestly, wtf did most of you think was going to happen?

automatic kill on sight is exactly what it would be. but what does that say? Be willing to die for the cause. or not and burn down your own hood. Your choice.

what do you think would happen if 2000 black/brown or whoever wanted to roll. rolled up into one of those cops neighborhoods, not to harm people physically but making noise and marching with signs letting it be known. the issue. and then police or even white home owners start shooting those people down all on camera. You dont think that would insight change IMMEDIATELY? of course it would.

 

[rapbeats]

Breh, I feel you, but I consider it a temper tantrum when it has no goal in mind. When I have an issue or problem, I analyse it, weigh my options and consequences, and put a plan into motion to change the situation. Any other response is irrational, impulsive and ultimately self defeating. Looting, burning, destroying, vandalizing, etc., does nothing to aid our cause. If anything it quite possibly sets us back, especially if there were other ways to proceed on this one. The other thing is, signicant evidence and witnesses don't support the narrative that his hands were up and he was surrendering. The more I read on it, the more I think the cop should have waited for backup and then make an arrest. As big as Brown was, it wasn't like he could hide and not be apprehended somewhere down the road. In that regard, Wilson's actions remind me of Zimmerman being told to stay in the car which had he listened, could have prevented a whole lot misery. Still, I think a lot of people are looking at this through emotion, and not looking at the evidence. Like the other thread I posted on where someone said a Black man went to prison for 35 years after killing a police dog. I imagine plenty of people really believed that too, but a simple examination of what he was accused of, and ultimately pleaded down for, demonstrated otherwise.

Still, I completely agree with you on the history of Black people and the police. The police have a major credibility problem, so bad that when a case like this comes up and the evidence supports the officer, it's hard to not still be suspicious. We've had 400 years of the okey-doke, and maybe this Ferguson situation is just more of the same, but I'm not convinced at this point.

the witness accounts conflict on did he have his hands up or down. That was stated last night by the white DA. All of the accounts conflict. There is no video footage of it. its 100% I think i saw...... I mean it went form he never moved towards the officer, to he was walking slowly towards the officer, to he was jogging to , it was a full on charge. you had all those testimonies. which one is right? who knows? no one but mr wilson. or the dead man that cant speak.

 

[Data-Hawk]

How many people have died?


In the typical fashion of most riots, which is the destruction of the city in which they reside, this isn't any different than any other riot. It's probably less extreme... Because like I said, how many people are DEAD because of these riots?


No one gives a fukk when college students riot on their campus, over a fukking football game. Or a fukking hockey game... Or Soccer

Like I said before, it's about bringing attention to the cause of the riot. Just about every riot ever in history has destroyed the area where those people live in.

Only reason why it doesn't spill into the white/suburban areas is because the whites and suburban a as a whole don't give a fukk about the killing of an unarmed black teen that was already labeled a thug without any proof of him being so. So blacks rioting in that type of area would be an automatic kill on sight... Most of us know that.





Honestly, wtf did most of you think was going to happen?

Bruh, I see what you are saying.. I do.. But I'm telling you in my opinion, I think they wanted them to Riot to set the narrative. How are you setting the tone when you did exactly what they wanted you to do? After this I don't even really feel like going back and forth because people are running off emotions( I understand ) but again that's what they wanted. They hoped that the rioting would stay right there. I'm telling you the people were setup and you telling me about history. You say it was about bringing attention to the riot right? Funny when I was in wal greens and took a look at the newspaper, all I seen was the looters ( again, playing into their hand and letting them set the narrative ).

and no , the reason why it doesn't spill into the white areas is because that's where the cops LIVE! or their family/friends. If you do , now you are sending a message and they don't want that. Do it where they live!!, yeah we'll still look bad, but at least their lives are just as fukkked up.

A few questions

Why was the announcement at night?

Why were the cops not protecting those stores?

Why was a perimeter setup?


I see you avoided my last question, so do me a favor. Take your computer and throw it in the trash for me, see how much you affect us by doing so.



EDIT: O look, a press conference about the looters....not Mike Brown

 

[George's Dilemma]

the witness accounts conflict on did he have his hands up or down. That was stated last night by the white DA. All of the accounts conflict. There is no video footage of it. its 100% I think i saw...... I mean it went form he never moved towards the officer, to he was walking slowly towards the officer, to he was jogging to , it was a full on charge. you had all those testimonies. which one is right? who knows? no one but mr wilson. or the dead man that cant speak.

And that's partly why I question responding in the manner that they're doing in Ferguson. The evidence is all over the place, many have contradicted themselves or changed their story, etc. Plenty of people are going off of hearsay. Then you have a handful of Black witnesses who's testimony consistently supports Wilson's account of how it went down along with the physical evidence. Regardless of all of that, and whom you or I believe, it's obvious that a trial would be a waste of time because the evidence isn't solid enough to build a case, much less expect a conviction out of. I hate to sound like I'm full of self-hatred, but I guarantee you those testifying against Wilson would likely get slaugtered by defense attorneys much like Rachel Jenteal during the Trayvon case. It would likely be quite, embarrasing.

Myself personally breh, I hope this incident generates more discussion on what we need to do to ensure we don't put ourselves in situations like this. Brown's death was ultimately avoidable, and he bears some responsibility for what happened.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

automatic kill on sight is exactly what it would be. but what does that say? Be willing to die for the cause. or not and burn down your own hood. Your choice.

what do you think would happen if 2000 black/brown or whoever wanted to roll. rolled up into one of those cops neighborhoods, not to harm people physically but making noise and marching with signs letting it be known. the issue. and then police or even white home owners start shooting those people down all on camera. You dont think that would insight change IMMEDIATELY? of course it would.

Some would die/get killed and some would get arrested and sent through a system that is completely against them and would be after they attacked innocents


And let's be real here. They're attacking BUSINESSES... McDonalds isn't black owned. That car dealership isn't black owned most likely, and etc. They're not burning down homes of innocent people or where they reside. They're burning down establishments that make profit off of them. And even if the businesses are insured, like they're going to want to rebuild in that area anytime soon.

Rioting doesn't necessarily mean people are dying and being murdered. Like I said, someone give me a body count on how many rioters are killing innocent people or themselves? A lot of people are usually dead by now when other countries/cultures have been involved in riots

The police get fukkED UP in some countries when people riot, but there's a lil grey area for that because they're usually the majority in their culture. We're not

And just like you got people in Ferguson, which is ground zero for the frustration, that are rioting you also have people all over the country that are marching and having peaceful protests...


And werent the original protests and sit-ins in Ferguson supposedly peaceful/nonviolent?

 

[rapbeats]

I already know they're at war with us. What I'm saying is right now, black people collectively do not act like we're at war. We have no means to defend ourselves and we live our lives like everything is OK. Even the dudes saying we need to go to war aren't prepared. We have no militia and anything we would need to go to war with our enemy, we have to buy from our enemy.

well friend this is what happens when you live with your oppressor and your oppressors offspring. it is...what it is. there is no way around it. unless we leave. and then where are we going to go where the white man in general has not perverted said place?

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Bruh, I see what you are saying.. I do.. But I'm telling you in my opinion, I think they wanted them to Riot to set the narrative. How are you setting the tone when you did exactly what they wanted you to do? After this I don't even really feel like going back and forth because people are running off emotions( I understand ) but again that's what they wanted. They hoped that the rioting would stay right there. I'm telling you the people were setup and you telling me about history. You say it was about bringing attention to the riot right? Funny when I was in wal greens and took a look at the newspaper, all I seen was the looters ( again, playing into their hand and letting them set the narrative ).

and no , the reason why it doesn't spill into the white areas is because that's where the cops LIVE! or their family/friends. If you do , now you are sending a message and they don't want that. Do it where they live!!, yeah we'll still look bad, but at least their lives are just as fukkked up.

A few questions

Why was the announcement at night?

Why were the cops not protecting those stores?

Why was a perimeter setup?


I see you avoided my last question, so do me a favor. Take your computer and throw it in the trash for me, see how much you affect us by doing so.



EDIT: O look, a press conference about the looters....not Mike Brown

nikka I was never trying to answer any of your fukking questions anyway

You quoted me first. I didn't even know or care what you posted before

 

[Data-Hawk]

nikka I was never trying to answer any of your fukking questions anyway

You quoted me first. I didn't even know or care what you posted before

 

[godkiller]

White america is already at war with us. they raise money and reward each other for killing black children. White folk are buying guns at record numbers.. who do you think they are so scared of? Who do you think they are gonna use those guns o

This is all true. Cacs are rewarding each other for killing black people. Wilson, Zimmerman, the rapist, etc all receved thousands of dollars in support, essentially for maiming, killing, etc blacks.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Lol, no one is dodging your dumbass question, I completely ignored it because it was irrelevant

but to ANSWER it, it wasn't meant to affect you personally. Who are you?

The reason they're rioting is because they feel as if there is an injustice and of frustration.. To bring awareness to a situation. The same reason for most of the other riots that have occurred around the world.

I can tell you what it has personally done for me. It has helped me weed out certain people who have considered me friends on social media, while also given me education and the opportunity to educate others who want to understand.

It has created dialogue about americas elephant in the room, which is underlying racism and white supremacy.


What has it personally done to/for you... idk and idgaf








and all these nikkas complaining about riots... wtf did you expect to happen? What do you prefer to have happen... more marching? More sit-ins, more singing?

I'm not saying that they should riot, I'm saying I understand why they are rioting. I'm also not surprised by the verdict and I also don't believe it was as racially charged (even though it was majority white jury) as much as i think it was about Wilson being a police officer.

 

[rapbeats]

Some would die/get killed and some would get arrested and sent through a system that is completely against them and would be after they attacked innocents


And let's be real here. They're attacking BUSINESSES... McDonalds isn't black owned. That car dealership isn't black owned most likely, and etc. They're not burning down homes of innocent people or where they reside. They're burning down establishments that make profit off of them. And even if the businesses are insured, like they're going to want to rebuild in that area anytime soon.

Rioting doesn't necessarily mean people are dying and being murdered. Like I said, someone give me a body count on how many rioters are killing innocent people or themselves? A lot of people are usually dead by now when other countries/cultures have been involved in riots

The police get fukkED UP in some countries when people riot, but there's a lil grey area for that because they're usually the majority in their culture. We're not

And just like you got people in Ferguson, which is ground zero for the frustration, that are rioting you also have people all over the country that are marching and having peaceful protests...


And werent the original protests and sit-ins in Ferguson supposedly peaceful/nonviolent?

you're missing my point. i never said harm anyone. i said take the protest to the cops neighborhood. start marching thru the burbs where all the white folks live(the people with power to change things). start making them feel uncomfortable. and just maybe, you might get a response. people feeling uncomfortable for long stretches is what makes for change. Sure there will be some fools shooting us down. now we can bust back(and lose, the numbers dont lie). OR we can keep marching, keep getting lit up, keep marching, keep getting lit up, keep marching. thats when even the "i'm not in it" white people will start to feel compassion. "dang they are just shooting up little kids, i know they're black but geez, they just shot my daughters best friend... something has to change." Thats how it happens.

or you rush the mayors spot, the da, police station with contracts and say , sorry you are no longer our authority, we denounce you. here are the signatures from all of the residence of this said area. those that didnt sign. you can rule them. but not us. We are electing our own officials and police force, etc. We'll apply for fed dollars to assist. thats another option. or you can do both options all at once.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

you're missing my point. i never said harm anyone. i said take the protest to the cops neighborhood. start marching thru the burbs where all the white folks live(the people with power to change things). start making them feel uncomfortable. and just maybe, you might get a response. people feeling uncomfortable for long stretches is what makes for change. Sure there will be some fools shooting us down. now we can bust back(and lose, the numbers dont lie). OR we can keep marching, keep getting lit up, keep marching, keep getting lit up, keep marching. thats when even the "i'm not in it" white people will start to feel compassion. "dang they are just shooting up little kids, i know they're black but geez, they just shot my daughters best friend... something has to change." Thats how it happens.

or you rush the mayors spot, the da, police station with contracts and say , sorry you are no longer our authority, we denounce you. here are the signatures from all of the residence of this said area. those that didnt sign. you can rule them. but not us. We are electing our own officials and police force, etc. We'll apply for fed dollars to assist. thats another option. or you can do both options all at once.

People are marching all over cities everywhere all over the country. Theyre usually in the downtown districts of those cities if i'm not mistaken... At least that what I think I've seen in Atl

But you're saying to march into the suburban areas, because thats where most police officers live, and keep marching until someone starts shooting? Is that your point? Doesn't sound like the best idea but w/e



Some people in ferguson are rioting, others are peacefully marching or having sit-ins. Everyone is high on emotions and some are acting it out in different ways. It is what it is really

I believe in non-violence, especially for those that choose to be innocent and not partake, but I also believe in getting a point across. If I knew how to do that I would run for office

Only way I can think of is to hit them where the money is. Thats why I don't care if they burn down all the major businesses in the area... I'm sure not a lot of minorities were working there anyway. I'm cool with boycotting black friday, or if people of Ferguson only support minority owned businesses (all minority owned too). From my experience the best way to get someones attention is to hit them in their pockets

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

welcome to coli where people ask valid questions and get hate for it

 

[The_Sheff]

If destroying property and physically harming others is not the answer to feeling threatened then why has that been the go to plan for this country since its inception? Seems to be pretty damn effective!

 

[How Sway?]

let that bytch burn straight up