[DF] - QLEEN PAPER VS. TY LAW

Who won?

  • Qleen Paper.

    Votes: 7 70.0%
  • Ty Law.

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Debatable.

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Whoever they were supposed to battle shouldn't have backed out. #facts

    Votes: 1 10.0%

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Never understood TBZ's stanning of Qleen. He's not that good. He's got QP ghostwriting a few punches, whoopty doo.

Ty Law's performance here is absolutely terrible. He needs less over the head shyt and more direct shyt. Even some filler/real talk could work. You can't have every bar be a 2-in-1 that may not hit even if the people get it. Ty has the pen game down but he needs everything else. He hasn't evolved in the last three years I'm beginning to lose hope for dude.
 

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Never understood TBZ's stanning of Qleen. He's not that good. He's got QP ghostwriting a few punches, whoopty doo.

Ty Law's performance here is absolutely terrible. He needs less over the head shyt and more direct shyt. Even some filler/real talk could work. You can't have every bar be a 2-in-1 that may not hit even if the people get it. Ty has the pen game down but he needs everything else. He hasn't evolved in the last three years I'm beginning to lose hope for dude.


Qleen is the total package Bars performance jokes charisma he has it all. and most of us felt that way before he teamed up with QP. His battle with magic is classic.
 

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I see that Ty Law is trying to work on his performance, that's a positive. But if we are being real, the fastest way for him to get better is to go fukk with QP's.

If Ty had any idea how the crowd would respond to each line, then he'd be able to perform much better. He not sure when the crowd is going to laugh, which punchlines are going to land hard, which punchlines he needs to sell a little while he's waiting for reaction, how to work the camera while the crowd is going off, etc. He'd also need to know which lines should just be discarded completely.

Between the two QP's, they understand all of that. And they seemed like they were rocking with him, so why not?

I was just watching this battle thinking ty should join rg3
 

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I was just watching this battle thinking ty should join rg3

Yup. Some of those iffy punchlines he had can be sold with a little ad-libbing, he just needs to be aware of what to say in that dead space. Ty is Nuborn-ish where he's like "Oh, you didn't like that one?" "Y'all sleeping".
QP Sons says weird shyt all the time, but he has so much experience selling his punches that he never has those dead spots. Then you take a guy like Gwitty that drops those left field haymakers like Ty does, but knows how to perform his shyt to keep the crowd engaged. If Gwitty had Ty's pen, he'd be really difficult to beat. The R3 guys all do such a great job of embracing their awkwardness, Ty Law needs to get in where he fits in.
 

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Yup. Some of those iffy punchlines he had can be sold with a little ad-libbing, he just needs to be aware of what to say in that dead space. Ty is Nuborn-ish where he's like "Oh, you didn't like that one?" "Y'all sleeping".
QP Sons says weird shyt all the time, but he has so much experience selling his punches that he never has those dead spots. Then you take a guy like Gwitty that drops those left field haymakers like Ty does, but knows how to perform his shyt to keep the crowd engaged. If Gwitty had Ty's pen, he'd be really difficult to beat. The R3 guys all do such a great job of embracing their awkwardness, Ty Law needs to get in where he fits in.

Yeah

Ty Law has maxed out what he can do on his own. It's time to start working with other battle rappers and accepting constructive criticism on how to improve.
 

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Idk why ya'll think Qleen didn't write this.

If you understand the difference between QP Sons and Qleens bar structure you can tell this follows Qleens normal writing pattern.

He did the same thing he always does pattern wise.

He does this similar compound rhyming thing that say an Elzhi does.

Where there's rhyme A, rhyme A, rhyme B rhyme B , rhyme A. Where he compounds rhyme patterns in between his main rhyme scheme, and he did exactly that here.

QP Sons doesn't so much do that as look for homonyms and double entendres, not saying Qleen doesn't do this sometimes too, but their styles are different enough to tell apart.

I don't think Qleen spit anything this battle that was above and beyond what he's been capable of before, Qleen has always been nice.
 

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Qleen ain't write none of this shyt and idc.
Yall need to cut this shyt out

He was still using qleen type words and punches

Only thing noticeable was his transitions between bars, way more polished, QP helpin him work on that =/= him writing shyt word for word, they been around each other long enougb that he coulda just learned it from him

shyt on the flipside QP's style is a little funnier in a qleen-esque way, qleen writing his shyt word for word too? No, he prolly just learned that shyt frok qleen, aint like they retarded or something
 

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Idk why ya'll think Qleen didn't write this.

If you understand the difference between QP Sons and Qleens bar structure you can tell this follows Qleens normal writing pattern.

He did the same thing he always does pattern wise.

He does this similar compound rhyming thing that say an Elzhi does.

Where there's rhyme A, rhyme A, rhyme B rhyme B , rhyme A. Where he compounds rhyme patterns in between his main rhyme scheme, and he did exactly that here.

QP Sons doesn't so much do that as look for homonyms and double entendres, not saying Qleen doesn't do this sometimes too, but their styles are different enough to tell apart.

I don't think Qleen spit anything this battle that was above and beyond what he's been capable of before, Qleen has always been nice.

I absolutely hate this argument. Rapper A did not write for Rapper B, because Rapper A has different _______.

The problem was this argument is damn near any rapper can be imitated. Then you have quantum physics, a rap nerd on his team. I'm pretty sure Quantum Physics has the capability to mimic anyone's style. Would that even be a shock?
 

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I absolutely hate this argument. Rapper A did not write for Rapper B, because Rapper A has different _______.

The problem was this argument is damn near any rapper can be imitated. Then you have quantum physics, a rap nerd on his team. I'm pretty sure Quantum Physics has the capability to mimic anyone's style. Would that even be a shock?
No, it wouldn't be a shock. Not saying it would.

The point is Qleens style is exactly the same in this battle as it's virtually always been. It's not like there was some huge leap in quality compared to previous stuff.

I didn't watch this battle and say "wow Qleen was pretty good so therefore QP Sons must be writing for him"

I watched it and said "same old Qleen " His style is very distinct and it's the same here as it's always been. I don't doubt him and the other QP bounce shyt off each other or write together. I just don't think QP Sons is ghostwriting for him. Not sure what Qleen said here that made anyone think "damn QP Sons must've wrote that"
 

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I absolutely hate this argument. Rapper A did not write for Rapper B, because Rapper A has different _______.

The problem was this argument is damn near any rapper can be imitated. Then you have quantum physics, a rap nerd on his team. I'm pretty sure Quantum Physics has the capability to mimic anyone's style. Would that even be a shock?
No it wouldnt be a shock

The problem is yall act like these battle rappers have learning disabilities and cant just learn shyt from sparring or being around each other alot, it always automatically turns into "he's writing for him"


You even said in this very thread that Ty Law should work with other battlers right? Does that mean they need to write for Ty? Of course not, you meant he just needs to be around them so he can learn shyt on his own and incorporate it into his style. So if Ty Law can learn shyt without it being ghostwritten for him why can't Qleen?

Are yall picking and choosing which battlers have the ability to learn and improve? :jbhmm: seems like a weird thing to do ESPECIALLY with Qleen since the main flaw about him is he wasn't taking battle rap serious for a long time, maybe he just got serious and it's showing.

Actually this the same exact shyt yall nikkas was sayin about Suge when he got focused and went on his run :dead:


Why didnt yall do this with chilla when he improved his style? Is it because he's viewed as more intelligent than Qleen and Suge? Or is it because qp got a rep for ghostwriting(for people who were already trash btw)? Who was the "QP" in the situation with Suge? Danny got more polished as well, who writing for him?
 
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