[DF] - QLEEN PAPER VS. TY LAW

[theflyest]

No it wouldnt be a shock

The problem is yall act like these battle rappers have learning disabilities and cant just learn shyt from sparring or being around each other alot, it always automatically turns into "he's writing for him"


You even said in this very thread that Ty Law should work with other battlers right? Does that mean they need to write for Ty? Of course not, you meant he just needs to be around them so he can learn shyt on his own and incorporate it into his style. So if Ty Law can learn shyt without it being ghostwritten for him why can't Qleen?

Are yall picking and choosing which battlers have the ability to learn and improve? seems like a weird thing to do ESPECIALLY with Qleen since the main flaw about him is he wasn't taking battle rap serious for a long time, maybe he just got serious and it's showing.

Actually this the same exact shyt yall nikkas was sayin about Suge when he got focused and went of his run

I'll come back & read your post.

Just know I never said QP writes for Qleen.

I just don't agree with Rapper A raps differently than Rapper B, so he couldn't have wrote it. We have made threads on "rap like _____."

 

[T-K-G]

I'll come back & read your post.

Just know I never said QP writes for Qleen.

I just don't agree with Rapper A raps differently than Rapper B, so he couldn't have wrote it. We have made threads on "rap like _____."

That's fair


Tbh the length stems from a convo i had wit a homie last week about how when battle rappers click up and start gettin better nikkas immediately go to ghostwriter allegations instead of the possibility of them just learning shyt and getting better

 

[theflyest]

That's fair


Tbh the length stems from a convo i had wit a homie last week about how when battle rappers click up and start gettin better nikkas immediately go to ghostwriter allegations instead of the possibility of them just learning shyt and getting better

I went back & read the post.

Honestly, I think it's a little bit of both. I think Qleen has learned shyt from Qp. I also think Qp has wrote for Qleen, specifically in the beginning of their friendship.

Now, I don't think QP is writing all three rounds & saying "here spit this." I do believe he does contribute, especially considering Qleen is battling more often.

I accept ghostwriting as part as rap. I don't trip like most hiphop fans. As long as an emcee is writing 80% of their shyt, that is all I can really ask.

 

[Ardamus]

I mean, I think maybe Qleen was like "yo, QP got this line right here" and QP was like "nah, say it like this".
And QP is like "yo, I'm gonna do this in the battle" and Qleen is like "nah, do this instead" qhen it comes to performance.
Overall, them two would make a dope two on two since they seem to be helping each other out.

 

[theflyest]

I mean, I think maybe Qleen was like "yo, QP got this line right here" and QP was like "nah, say it like this".
And QP is like "yo, I'm gonna do this in the battle" and Qleen is like "nah, do this instead" qhen it comes to performance.
Overall, them two would make a dope two on two since they seem to be helping each other out.

It's dope that Qleen has opened himself up to a new way of thinking.

He has heartless, qp, & Efarrell in his crew.

 

[Momentum]

Qleen probably got a bar here and there but it wasn't as blatant as the battle he dropped Kuwait as a reference in.

 

[MicIsGod]

Yall need to cut this shyt out

He was still using qleen type words and punches

Only thing noticeable was his transitions between bars, way more polished, QP helpin him work on that =/= him writing shyt word for word, they been around each other long enougb that he coulda just learned it from him

shyt on the flipside QP's style is a little funnier in a qleen-esque way, qleen writing his shyt word for word too? No, he prolly just learned that shyt frok qleen, aint like they retarded or something

You a qleen fan just like me. A lot of these bars aren't his.

 

[dutchie]

Qleen probably got a bar here and there but it wasn't as blatant as the battle he dropped Kuwait as a reference in.

 

[T-K-G]

You a qleen fan just like me. A lot of these bars aren't his.

that's the only argument u got?


You right, Qleen quit rapping and is just spitting qp bars

 

[FreshAIG]

I don't think QP writes for Qleen. At most I think it's Qleen writes all his bars and says them to QP and them and they tell him "maybe you should say the bar this way" or something. That's about it. Qleen don't seem like the type to care enough about battle rap to have someone else write for him.

It sucks that once someone improves they're never given props because cats always think someone else must've wrote it. That's not fair.

 

[Reptile]

Guys quit. Ever since QP and QP started hanging out QPs material started sounding slightly different. Obviously QP isn't writing all of QPs bars but QP definitely has a small hand in QPs writtens. Lets not play that game people.

 

[T-K-G]

It sucks that once someone improves they're never given props because cats always think someone else must've wrote it. That's not fair.

These nikkas treat battle rappers like they have learning disabilities, what's stopping qleen from randomly hearing about the city of kuwait? I never read up about it but i heard it enough in passing to know where it is.

Speaks more on how they view battlers than the battlers themselves imo

 

[JuvenileHell]

I don't think QP writes for Qleen. At most I think it's Qleen writes all his bars and says them to QP and them and they tell him "maybe you should say the bar this way" or something. That's about it. Qleen don't seem like the type to care enough about battle rap to have someone else write for him.

It sucks that once someone improves they're never given props because cats always think someone else must've wrote it. That's not fair.

People don't have a problem with Qleen improving on his bars. It's just that his bars obviously has QP's influence all over it. Everything from the QP's bar structure, to QP's wit. I personally never had a problem with Qleen's old style or his bars. And I have no issue with him wanting to improve his bars as well. Just wish it felt more like Qleen's writing style but on steroids as opposed to QP's bars with Qleen's delivery.

Like Writer's Bloque for example. No doubt they help each other write, but none of them come off sounding like the other. B magic has the back to back punches, Chilla OD's on schemes, JC has clever bars, Daylyt is the Reach God, etc.

 

[MicIsGod]

Chris said when qleen was supposed to battle rone in Phoenix and quantum physics said he wanted them both to be flown out early so he could write qleens bars. Fast forward to now and qleen mentions Kuwait in a battle.

 

[Scottie Drippin]

I don't think QP writes for Qleen. At most I think it's Qleen writes all his bars and says them to QP and them and they tell him "maybe you should say the bar this way" or something. That's about it. Qleen don't seem like the type to care enough about battle rap to have someone else write for him.

It sucks that once someone improves they're never given props because cats always think someone else must've wrote it. That's not fair.

Bruh, dead all that.

It's the fact that he's with Quantom, a dude known for what? Writing for people. This is like an athlete hiring a dude who worked at BALCO as his personal trainer and you being like "It's a shame a guy improves his game and people just assume it's steroids."

Qleen doesn't care about battle rap at all. That's exactly why he's just getting bread spitting shyt that QP wrote for him. I'm sure he still writes some stuff, but it's so obvious QP is penning a bunch of shyt for him.

The QP's are straight up hustling in the battle rap game now, and Physics being a writer for hire is part of it.