Did Biggie Ever Rap Over a 100% Original Beat?

[Doin2Much Williams]

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[FunkDoc1112]

Ready to Die title track, Me & My bytch, and One More Chance (OG) weren't samples either. Great Value Interpolations of samples, yeah, but technically original.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Alot of that Bad Boy stuff had extremely obvious samples and literally zero chops. Look at the shyt like Feel So Good and Get Ready by Mase. They didnt even try with those songs and of course Mase had no choice but to use the tracks because that's just what the formula was with Puff and the crew.

BIG deserved alot more and it would've been nice to see him link with some west coast producers because I could EASILY see him floating on some Quik and Battlecat tracks

Ready to Die and even Life After Death still had plenty of chopped up samples...basically anything Easy Mo Bee did. Only his singles had those unoriginal jacked beats, but that was basically the case for any rapper signed to a major back then. At least one single would always have that lazy 70s/80s sample.

 

[Breh Obama]

Jesus...

Who in the hell cares about shyt like this...

I just thought it was interesting considering he has such a short catalogue compared to other greats and Bad Boy was known for sampling heavy

 

[TheDarceKnight]

What an odd thing to nitpick
85% of beats that anyone rapped over in the 90s used samples

shyt, wayyyy more than 85%

 

[JustCKing]

Ready to Die title track, Me & My bytch, and One More Chance (OG) weren't samples either. Great Value Interpolations of samples, yeah, but technically original.

The OG "One More Chance" is also a Debarge sample. They also threw in "Mind's Playing Tricks" when Biggie references the song and says the Scarface and Bushwick line

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Alot of that Bad Boy stuff had extremely obvious samples and literally zero chops. Look at the shyt like Feel So Good and Get Ready by Mase. They didnt even try with those songs and of course Mase had no choice but to use the tracks because that's just what the formula was with Puff and the crew.

BIG deserved alot more and it would've been nice to see him link with some west coast producers because I could EASILY see him floating on some Quik and Battlecat tracks

How come no one cares about obvious loops when it’s RZA or Madlib, but when it’s someone producing for Biggie then it’s an issue?

Also, 85% of Big’s first two albums were not all like Juicy, Big Poppa, and More Money More Problems. They were the hits though, so that’s how we remember it.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

The OG "One More Chance" is also a Debarge sample. They also threw in "Mind's Playing Tricks" when Biggie references the song and says the Scarface and Bushwick line

It's weird that they couldn't clear the El Debarge sample for the OG version but could clear a more popular Debarge sample for the remix. probably an album budget thing

 

[DMGAINGREEN]

He died a year before Swizz Beatz & The Neptunes changed the sound of hip hop so I doubt it

 

[Kaydigi]

Mods bush this thread please

One of the worst threads of all time

 

[DANJ!]

Alot of that Bad Boy stuff had extremely obvious samples and literally zero chops. Look at the shyt like Feel So Good and Get Ready by Mase. They didnt even try with those songs and of course Mase had no choice but to use the tracks because that's just what the formula was with Puff and the crew.

BIG deserved alot more and it would've been nice to see him link with some west coast producers because I could EASILY see him floating on some Quik and Battlecat tracks

Y'all are obsessed with everything being chopped up... some shyt is just dope by itself and sounds good to rhyme over... you ain't gotta take everything and try to 9th Wonderize it up. Some of the greatest hip-hop songs ever were straight loops.

 

[old boy]

we're asking about samples as hip hop heads?

 

[Breh Obama]

we're asking about samples as hip hop heads?

What's the point of being a "hip hop head" if you cant discuss hip hop things?

 

[Michael's Black Son]

Y'all are obsessed with everything being chopped up... some shyt is just dope by itself and sounds good to rhyme over... you ain't gotta take everything and try to 9th Wonderize it up. Some of the greatest hip-hop songs ever were straight loops.

Breh, Puffy had his artists rapping and singing over shyt that him and his producers didnt even bother changing up a little bit. I wouldn't be surprised if 30% of the Bad Boy catalogs is songs they just lifted and I could imagine how many tracks couldnt get cleared because the original artists didnt say yes to the sample.

At least flip the sample a little bit instead of something lazy like Playa Hater, which gotta be the worst BIG song and didnt need to be on the album right along with Another. Life After Death could've and should've been a single disc with nothing but heat from start to finish. Now some will disagree but BIG deserved better than to have obvious loops to spit on.

 

[DANJ!]

Breh, Puffy had his artists rapping and singing over shyt that him and his producers didnt even bother changing up a little bit. I wouldn't be surprised if 30% of the Bad Boy catalogs is songs they just lifted and I could imagine how many tracks couldnt get cleared because the original artists didnt say yes to the sample.

At least flip the sample a little bit instead of something lazy like Playa Hater, which gotta be the worst BIG song and didnt need to be on the album right along with Another. Life After Death could've and should've been a single disc with nothing but heat from start to finish. Now some will disagree but BIG deserved better than to have obvious loops to spit on.

"Juicy" is always gonna be a classic record... so will the "One More Chance" remix... doesn't matter how obvious it was... didn't have to be a guessing game or anything complicated to be great. There's so many songs that fall under that category and nobody really cares about whether they were loops or not.