Did Biggie Ever Rap Over a 100% Original Beat?

[Breh Obama]

It’s not about the beats, it’s because OP is wondering what songs were “original” and inferring that samples are somehow not good enough or easier or “less than” full original composition.

Exactly! When the fukk did I I criticize?

I was simply pointing out an observation as a true hip hop head and someone that makes beats

I thought it's a good point considering Big had such a finite catalog

 

[Breh Obama]

Call niccas b'tchmade and then get emotional because you don't understand the underlying premise of the thread brehs

It's not my fault yall dumb as fukk and completely miss the point

 

[DaveyDave]

Exactly! When the fukk did I I criticize?

I was simply pointing out an observation as a true hip hop head and someone that makes beats

I thought it's a good point considering Big had such a finite catalog

the reason it’s not a good point is that the vast majority of Hip Hop back then was either sampled or replayed samples. So to ask why he doesn’t have a lot of original production is like asking why did Metallica use a lot of fast guitar riffs or why didn’t Bach use a lot of drum machines.

 

[Breh Obama]

the reason it’s not a good point is that the vast majority of Hip Hop back then was either sampled or replayed samples. So to ask why he doesn’t have a lot of original production is like asking why did Metallica use a lot of fast guitar riffs or why didn’t Bach use a lot of drum machines.

But doesn't that make it more interesting considering Big only had 3 albums and died right around when original beats were starting to become more prevalent?

 

[DaveyDave]

But doesn't that make it more interesting considering Big only had 3 albums and died right around when original beats were starting to become more prevalent?

No.

sampling was the main way Hip Hop was made until he died. Had he lived I believe yes, he would have made more joints with cats like Swizz Beatz, Mannie Fresh (even though he actually has a lot of samples/replays) and more southern producers who generally used more instrumentation but again they did a lot of interpolation which isn’t straight up sampling but in that family rather than the one finger melodies Swizz was doing at the time. But given the time frame when Biggie actually made his music it’s not interesting or surprising at all that most of his music was sampled based. And even then, The Hitmen are known for playing extra shyt over the top or replaying a lot of their stuff as were a lot of the bigger name producers back then. It wasn’t all just cutting out 2 bars of a popular song and looping it up in protools. Making beats with samples back then was hard work, not like today where you can zoom in as much as you need and make minute chops and place things exactly where it needs to be.

 

[Pop123]

Why heads took offense to his question?

Lol, dude didn't say it in even a slightly disrespectful way, smh.

People on here are real snappy and love to argue...I think it's cause they get no butt but that's a nother discussion.

 

[Breh Obama]

No.

sampling was the main way Hip Hop was made until he died. Had he lived I believe yes, he would have made more joints with cats like Swizz Beatz, Mannie Fresh (even though he actually has a lot of samples/replays) and more southern producers who generally used more instrumentation but again they did a lot of interpolation which isn’t straight up sampling but in that family rather than the one finger melodies Swizz was doing at the time. But given the time frame when Biggie actually made his music it’s not interesting or surprising at all that most of his music was sampled based. And even then, The Hitmen are known for playing extra shyt over the top or replaying a lot of their stuff as were a lot of the bigger name producers back then. It wasn’t all just cutting out 2 bars of a popular song and looping it up in protools. Making beats with samples back then was hard work, not like today where you can zoom in as much as you need and make minute chops and place things exactly where it needs to be.

See breh. You cant tell me this isn't interesting thinking about the potential of Biggie over some Swizz or Neptunes tracks.

 

[Breh Obama]

Lol, dude didn't say it in even a slightly disrespectful way, smh.

People on here are real snappy and love to argue...I think it's cause they get no butt but that's a nother discussion.

Foreal I just simply asked a question cause I legit wanted to know

 

[old boy]

What's the point of being a "hip hop head" if you cant discuss hip hop things?

dear mama - tupac
fantastic voyage - coolio
nuthin but a g thang - dr. dre
they reminisce over you - pete rock & cl smooth
fight the power - public enemy
who run it - three six mafia
many men - 50 cent
mind playing tricks on me - geto boys


to name a few, goodness gracious lol, all use samples and are some of the greatest hip hop records of all time. this is a genre of music built on sampling. sure, there are some completely original compositions (we're not talking replaying samples with session musicians but from the ground up) but those are outliers, this is hip hop b. a genre of music born in the 1970's out of abject poverty with no musical instruments except for one... a turntable you got from your parents. the turntable became a musical instrument


and we're being snarky or pretentious to find this thread odd? it's like being in bizarro world with yall b


how are we having this conversation?

 

[Breh Obama]

dear mama - tupac
fantastic voyage - coolio
nuthin but a g thang - dr. dre
they reminisce over you - pete rock & cl smooth
fight the power - public enemy
who run it - three six mafia
many men - 50 cent
mind playing tricks on me - geto boys


to name a few, goodness gracious lol, all use samples and are some of the greatest hip hop records of all time. this is a genre of music built on sampling. sure, there are some completely original compositions (we're not talking replaying samples with session musicians but from the ground up) but those are outliers, this is hip hop b. a genre of music born in the 1970's out of abject poverty with no musical instruments except for one... a turntable you got from your parents. the turntable became a musical instrument


and we're being snarky or pretentious to find this thread odd? it's like being in bizarro world with yall b


how are we having this conversation?

Breh you completely missed the point.

Shut your slow dumbass up now

 

[Rice N Beans]

I did notice as a kid that Puff's producers were noticeably heavy on sampling. The one that jumps out was Missing You.

 

[bobbiewishbone]

Didn't Premier play the stabs in Unbelievable?

 

[Threnody]

Some of ya'll nikkas str8 up HATE Hip-Hop and don't even realize it


cats who don't understand the negative response to this thread are exposing themselves

 

[TEKBEATZ]

Jesus...

Who in the hell cares about shyt like this...

So weird