Did Dr Dre leaving Death Row make much of a difference?

[Harry B]

No it didn't cuz Dre's career was on egg shells. He did half of the firm(flop) after his aftermath presents album flopped. And I thought they were both good albums. If not for white amerikkka backing that cac Eminem, he would have went the way of guys like Prince Paul in the mainstream. Iovine kept Dre relevant in the mainstream. Even tricked people into believing a pos headphone like Beats are good. .

Are we acting like Dr. Dre's album released months after Eminem wasn't a classic that sold 2-3 times more than Ems album? Or that Pac's biggest single wasn't produced and featuring Dr. Dre? That Keep their heads ringing wasn't one of the biggest bangers of 95? Or No Diggity in 96? (despite being produced by Riley but featured Dre)

Xzibit, Snoop and even Ice Cube (Hello and Chin Check) all did it big with Dre in the late 90s early 2000s.

The aftermath compilation album, was an album filled with weak music and weak rappers, and a compilation featuring little of Dr. Dre.
It's like judging a coach of an pre-season game with mediocre practice squad players.

 

[JustCKing]

No it didn't cuz Dre's career was on egg shells. He did half of the firm(flop) after his aftermath presents album flopped. And I thought they were both good albums. If not for white amerikkka backing that cac Eminem, he would have went the way of guys like Prince Paul in the mainstream. Iovine kept Dre relevant in the mainstream. Even tricked people into believing a pos headphone like Beats are good. .

Before leaving Death Row, Dre's career was not on egg shells. He'd just given 2Pac the biggest song of his career months prior to him leaving. After Dre left Death Row, Pac was really all they had left. With Dre out, you had a mediocre Snoop album, Pac dying, and really no one else to continue the run. In terms of the West Coast as a whole, Cube and West Side Connection was the only thing really buzzing.

 

[JustCKing]

Scott Storch saved Dre

This guy was a keyboardist for The Roots before Dre and I'm willing to bet most of the posters on this board didn't know who a Scott Storch was until Dre.

 

[DANJ!]

It made Snoop's 2nd album sound like shyt, that's for sure...

Who's to say what woulda/coulda happened if he had stayed, but it definitely made a difference that he left.

 

[Harry B]

In any event having a dude like Dre in your squad can't possibly be negative, dude has proven for over 30 years that having him on your team creates millions, billions, classics, dope rappers, stars, dope producers and on. How lazy or whatever people want to call him.

The thing you have to consider is that Aftermath basically became Death Row. And imagine if he also could've kept Snoop, Daz and Kurupt. Perhaps snoop could give us another classic with Daz and Dre.

 

[prophecypro]

Combination of Dre leaving /changing his production a little and Pac dying and the west coast kind of falling back from Gangsta content

 

[DOGGFATHER96]

It made Snoop's 2nd album sound like shyt, that's for sure...

Who's to say what woulda/coulda happened if he had stayed, but it definitely made a difference that he left.

Funny thing tha doggfather album was complete while dre was still on deathrow. Dre himself mentioned the album was to drop early 96 after rage album, Hit rocks was to be one of the singles. Snoop mentioned that he had wanted dre to be more involved in the project, he said he took the tape to him so he could mix it etc but dre took it and said he will get to it after he finished his project, so snoop took it as he had to do it himself.

 

[DOGGFATHER96]

And he did but when pac died snoop went back and took songs off to record new songs all which replaced 2pacs features on the album but the end result was it did more than doggystyle worldwide just wasnt acclaimed. DPG west coast aftershock album was highly anticipated along with makaveli and one nation so dre leaving didnt hurt and without him tha row woulda dominated 97-98 for sure

 

[CrimsonTider]

Are we acting like Dr. Dre's album released months after Eminem wasn't a classic that sold 2-3 times more than Ems album? Or that Pac's biggest single wasn't produced and featuring Dr. Dre? That Keep their heads ringing wasn't one of the biggest bangers of 95? Or No Diggity in 96? (despite being produced by Riley but featured Dre)

Xzibit, Snoop and even Ice Cube (Hello and Chin Check) all did it big with Dre in the late 90s early 2000s.

The aftermath compilation album, was an album filled with weak music and weak rappers, and a compilation featuring little of Dr. Dre.
It's like judging a coach of an pre-season game with mediocre practice squad players.

The Chronic 01 would not have done what it did without that Em wave.

 

[DOGGFATHER96]

The Chronic 01 would not have done what it did without that Em wave.

Naw it was more seen like a deathrow album reunion in a sense which is why it sold alotta records Em was just a bonus

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

This guy was a keyboardist for The Roots before Dre and I'm willing to bet most of the posters on this board didn't know who a Scott Storch was until Dre.

Actually I did cuz I had bought every roots cd and knew all the members. I just didn't know what he looked like or knew he was white. Just like I still don't know what Eddie Sancho looks like. And no one here can say, "what did he do without Dre?" Lol. I'm waiting on that.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

The Chronic 01 would not have done what it did without that Em wave.

I don't know why these guys trying to rewrite history haha. I want someone to tell me what Dre did that Was popping from the time he left death row In 96 until, "my name is". Aftermath presents and the firm flopped. 97 it was jiggy 80s samples year. 98 was the rise of no limit, jay and dmx with def jam as a whole as Cash Money gained national fame and 99 Em came out with white anerikkka saving Dre's career

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

Are we acting like Dr. Dre's album released months after Eminem wasn't a classic that sold 2-3 times more than Ems album? Or that Pac's biggest single wasn't produced and featuring Dr. Dre? That Keep their heads ringing wasn't one of the biggest bangers of 95? Or No Diggity in 96? (despite being produced by Riley but featured Dre)

Xzibit, Snoop and even Ice Cube (Hello and Chin Check) all did it big with Dre in the late 90s early 2000s.

The aftermath compilation album, was an album filled with weak music and weak rappers, and a compilation featuring little of Dr. Dre.
It's like judging a coach of an pre-season game with mediocre practice squad players.

All of this was on death row. AFTER Dre left the row , he was doing bad himself so my point was that he couldn't even help himself. Pac dying is what hurt death row. Dre did 2 songs in all eyes on me, no songs on above the rim(Dax did Afro puffs),a few songs on Dogg Food, a couple in Murda was the case. So he wasn't carrying the label after Doggystyle at all. After doggyste, in 94, he didn't even produce 10 more songs total before he left in 96 haha. After Dre left in 96, statistically Desth row had more success than he did until Eminem.

 

[KingSol81]

The Chronic 01 would not have done what it did without that Em wave.

Super inaccurate, Still D-R-E and and Next Episode had way more of an impact than Forgot About Dre.. Still D-R-E was the biggest selling single of the album and Next Episode charted highest. Dre blew back up because he returned to a sound that was more familiar to a core Dre audience and because he was reunited with Snoop. The opposite is true though, Eminem would not have been as big as he became without the Dre wave, without Dre Em is just white backpack rapper on Rawkus compilations.

 

[JustCKing]

I don't know why these guys trying to rewrite history haha. I want someone to tell me what Dre did that Was popping from the time he left death row In 96 until, "my name is". Aftermath presents and the firm flopped. 97 it was jiffy 80s samples year. 98 was the rise of no limit, jay and dmx with def jam as a whole as Cash Money gained national fame and 99 Em came out with white anerikkka saving Dre's career

You giving Eminem and white Amerca too much credit. White America and Black America knee Dre BEFORE Eminem was even on the radar like that. Eminem popped off because Dre was producing him.

The Firm flop wasn't 100% Dre's fault and it was a flop for a reason. There was too many labels and machines behind that project for it not to be a mega success, but it wasn't. "Phone Tap" produced by Dr. Dre and Glove was well received though. Aftermath Presents was a compilation that was conplete departure from what Dre was known for.