Did Drake make it cool/acceptable to have ghostwriters in hip hop?

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I don't care, but when you start talking that "I'm the best rapper" talk like Drake did you better be writing your shyt.

You can't have tents of people writing and you talking that best rapper talk. No, you're the best actor/performer.
When did he say those exact words?

Rapping and writing are 2 different things anyway.
 

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You know why it still matters?....


When they asked Scarface does he have ghostwriters



He got upset like they took away all those hours he sat down and wrote

And cardi said “I write some of it” and got upset at the thought she don’t write at all


If she did not care she would laugh like always and say I’m making money


See the point :francis:
 

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First people/the internet need to decide what they really consider ghost writing.

Having someone write on your record and giving them credit is not ghost writing IMO. Having someone write and pretending you did it, is.

I give no fukks about the first, hate to see the latter. It doesn't make me stop supporting an artist but it detracts from my reverence for them if they don't write their own lyrics. but lets face it not everyone can be the star/artist most background people ESPECIALLY writers just do not have IT. Regardless of who wrote the lyrics would you rather hear them delivered from Quentin Miller or Drake?
 

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first name greatest , last name ever” then his head opens up and he bleeds sprite everywhere

but he most likely didn't write that so you're right
Greatest was so vague but I feel greatness applies to accomplishment more than skill.

This is why LL can claim to be goat and it was respectable while Canibus on the same song claim to be the illest and it too was believable.
 

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drake is the final point in a long road traveled

it's the point where rap/hip-hop fully became pop fully embraced by those not from the source

authenticity doesn't matter origin & back story doesn't matter your ggucci as long as the burbs buy in

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drake is the final point in a long road traveled

it's the point where rap/hip-hop fully became pop fully embraced by those not from the source

authenticity doesn't matter origin & back story doesn't matter your ggucci as long as the burbs buy in

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How is he inauthentic?

Is he a snitch acting like a gangster? Did he lie about his former job or where he's from?

Real pop to me is when you're working with people like Taylor Swift or Maroon 5 or David Guetta or something.
 

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Rappers have ghostwriters

Mc's write their own lyrics.

Rap is something you do, hip hop is something you live.

Some create for the culture others for a paycheck.
 

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If anything, he made it uncool. He was getting a lot of credit for the album where he tried to be a rappity rap rapper, then it emerged he wasn't responsible for some of it.

People already accepted people like Dre and Kanye because they're producers that direct whole pieces of music. Drake doesn't fit that category.
 

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How is he inauthentic?

Is he a snitch acting like a gangster? Did he lie about his former job or where he's from?

Real pop to me is when you're working with people like Taylor Swift or Maroon 5 or David Guetta or something.
his rap persona has always been contrived something he formed based off his relationships with cats that fit that mold more

he gives his impression of his favorite rappers & neighborhood superstars how he thinks they should talk walk etcetera

if he never formed these relationships & gained those cosigns he wouldn't be who he is.........if the character you portray is based on other individuals & formed way after the formative years of childhood i would say that qualifies as inauthenticity

rap is pop you don't have to work with artist like taylor.swift maroon5 david.guetta to be pop.........all you have to do is be popular ha

his most popular records aren't really traditional rap records & i always say that the simpgawd records are the ones truest to who he is.........he really does the rap nikka shyte for his own sake

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There was a time I thought Dr Dre was a Goat rapper also......


Mic delivery is simply more important than lyrics and penning.....:manny:
 
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